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    Why I will be rooting for a George Bush election victory

    Matthew Parris


    GEORGE W. BUSH needs a second term at the White House. This US presidency is halfway through an experiment whose importance is almost literally earth-shattering. Its success or failure could be a beacon for the future. I want to see that experiment properly concluded.

    What the President and his advisers are trying to do will be a colossal failure. But failure takes time to show itself beyond contradiction. The theory that liberal values and a capitalist economic system can be spread across the world by force of arms, and that the United States of America is competent to undertake this task, is the first big idea of the 21st Century. It should be tested to destruction. The opening American presidency of the new millennium — George W. Bush, 2001-2009 — should serve as an object lesson to the world for the decades to come. There must be no room left for argument. The President and his neoconservative court should be offered all the rope they need to hang themselves. When they do, when they fail, when America's dream of becoming the new Rome dies, there should be no possible excuse, no straw at which Republican apologists can clutch.

    Throughout history, failed ideologues have protested that they were never really given the chance to put their ideas into practice. Their disciples remain, still believing, still evangelising for the next attempt. Let the former President George W. Bush find no such cult to puff his memory. Give him the chance to see this thing through to the end, so that nobody will be able to claim that it was the American people who let him down; that the voters’ nerve failed before he could finish the job. Let him finish the job. Then the failure can be pinned to him and to his project, not to any infirmity of the people’s purpose.

    Incoming governments, especially if they represent big new ideas, are rarely well served when their victory leaves a lingering sense that the loser lost only the election, not the argument. It was good for Thatcherism and for Britain that in the 1974 general elections Harold Wilson was given the opportunity to resume a Labour government until five years later his successor could run it right into the buffers. We needed first to test the muddle of postwar British socialism through to its complete discredit.

    We well and truly did. James Callaghan’s Government really was the last gasp of all that, and a quarter-century later one need only say “winter of discontent” to recall the total and humiliating extinction of a whole philosophy of government. The awful memory still haunts, and has moulded, its new Labour successors. Even today, even after the pain of Thatcherism, there is almost nobody alive who would with a straight face argue that a mixed economy run in partnership with organised labour is the answer for Britain.

    In 1974 the British people had not despaired of corporatist government. They needed one more kick in the groin from the ghost of Karl Marx before they were ready for the shock of Margaret Thatcher. She was lucky to inherit a country which, in more than the electoral sense, had turned its back on the ideas she routed.

    Tony Blair, when his time came, was lucky to inherit a similar sense of national revulsion against the former governing party. If the Tories had been ejected in 1992, Neil Kinnock would have taken the reins of a nation quite unsure what it should do next. Thatcherism had not quite run its course. A few years more were needed for the electorate to realise that her party had lost its way.

    It was not John Major’s fault that he presided over a gathering storm of impatience and disgust, but he did. The storm broke in the general election of 1997, and cleared the air for his new Labour successors. Mr Blair had won the argument fair and square. He has since enjoyed the two terms that he probably deserved to prove that fine words and a lot of fiddling about cannot be a permanent prescription for government. His time, too, will come, and when it does nobody will be able to claim that the Third Way was not given a fair crack of the whip. The Third Way is dead: we have let its own originator kill it.

    America’s neoconservatives deserve a similar chance. I have listened to what Senator Kerry has to say, the way he says it, and the record of what he has done in politics so far, and I cannot gather from it any sense of national direction which can rival that of Mr Bush. Mr Kerry is full of intelligent doubt, and all at sea. Mr Bush knows what he stands for.

    The President is magnificently and unambiguously wrong. He has become the vehicle for a dawning neo-imperialist urge which surely had to surface now that the US has become the world’s only super- power; and he has surrounded himself with a cabal of advisers ready to turbocharge the imperialist impulse — “because we can” — with a moral energy — “because we should”.

    It would have been strange indeed if a great nation, unthreatened by any rival in the world, had not felt the stirrings of an adventurism such as this. Given that the Soviet Union fell more than a decade ago, the question to Uncle Sam should perhaps be: “What took America so long?” But carried into action the new impulse is doomed. The answer to “because we can” is “you cannot”. The answer to “because we should” does not therefore arise.

    What the world has begun to receive recently is a lesson in the impotence of brute power and technological sophistication. The lesson is set to continue through Mr Bush’s second term, if he gets it.

    Earlier this year, before most people in Britain had even noticed that Washington was to “hand over” sovereignty to Iraq on June 30, I tried to explain on this page how the plan was doomed, and how the new government in Baghdad would be a despised puppet, ruinous to maintain, just as those long-forgotten governments of South Vietnam became. But I reckoned without the zeal which can keep such experiments alive.

    As a plant cutting may “take” in the right soil, Mr Bush and his friends believe that in the Arab world their new administration will take, because (they believe) what America wants for Iraq is what, deep down, Iraqis want for themselves. When at first this approach does not succeed, the neocons persuade themselves that one more heave will do the trick. They have to believe this because they cannot allow themselves to think that an Iraqi insurgency could be anywhere near the popular pulse. When evidence points to an ambiguous Iraqi attitude towards the insurgents, Bushites must resort, as Marxists do, to the doctrine of false consciousness: they will say that Arab opinion has been brainwashed.

    We should be properly inoculated against this error for it has a potency. The President may be no genius, but I am not one of those smug leftwingers who takes Donald Rumsfeld or Richard Perle to be fools or knaves, or who dismiss their argument as shallow. Their argument is deep. It may not work in practice, but it does make sense. Like classical Marxism, it has a logic of its own, a thrilling and terrible cogency whose philosophical roots can be detected in J.S. Mill, in the American Declaration of Independence, in the preamble to the US Constitution, in Kipling and Rhodes.

    A simple and moving idea resonates through all these words. It is the idea that the principles we now hold are, at the most profound level, universal. Other peoples, other cultures, other nations hold them too — or would, if only they were given the chance. Show them the light, and they will follow. Through the prism of this theory every system of government which fails to uphold our own values is seen as a perversion of natural law, a denial of essential human nature, and at war with the real (if unconscious) wishes of its own citizens.

    The removal of such systems of government, if necessary by force of arms, and the installation — if necessary by force of arms — of governments which resemble our own, become, to the liberal interventionist, only superficially acts of coercion, for he is lifting from people an alien yoke. If this is not how they see things today then tomorrow they will, they must. To the liberal interventionist, the thought never occurs that Saddam Hussein might have been a product of the whole Iraqi people and their history, as well as an imposition upon them. They think that he was only an imposition and in their hearts the people know it. Remove him, thinks the interventionist, and they will love us. If at first they do not rise and hail us then another heave is called for: one last heave.

    Let them have that one last heave; and another; and another. And when every heave fails, and this President's successors have to begin the cruel and dirty process of withdrawal, let there remain not the ghost of a suspicion in any American mind that George W. Bush and his friends were not given their chance to try.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly...1102058,00.html (only available freely i think for 5 more days)

    I don't agree with either the author's sentiment or his analysis of the situation, but i thought it was interesting enough to post.

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    Unfortunatly it has got a cruel logic about it though...


    Except that we just have to look to the Conservative Party in the UK, to see that Thatcherism isnt dead...indeed they appear to think they are on a rivival.

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    Originally posted by Rat Faced@9 May 2004 - 17:46
    Unfortunatly it has got a cruel logic about it though...


    Except that we just have to look to the Conservative Party in the UK, to see that Thatcherism isnt dead...indeed they appear to think they are on a rivival.
    Or listen to Tony Blair's speech last week. :-"
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    Originally posted by lynx+9 May 2004 - 17:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 9 May 2004 - 17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rat Faced@9 May 2004 - 17:46
    Unfortunatly it has got a cruel logic about it though...


    Except that we just have to look to the Conservative Party in the UK, to see that Thatcherism isnt dead...indeed they appear to think they are on a rivival.
    Or listen to Tony Blair&#39;s speech last week. :-" [/b][/quote]



    That sleazy Bar Steward is on his way out now..

    Even his friends are asking him to stand down.... oh how history does repeat itself, he was a fan of Thatcher, wasnt he?

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    I didn&#39;t read the whole article but I got the gist in the first paragraphs.

    Mathew doesn&#39;t understand that America and more importantly the world is not to be "experimented" on.

    edit: added the word not.
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    Originally posted by Busyman@9 May 2004 - 23:52
    I didn&#39;t read the whole article but I got the gist in the first paragraphs.

    Mathew doesn&#39;t understand that America and more importantly the world is to be "experimented" on.
    Ah, you should have given it &#39;till the end of the 2nd paragraph

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    Although Mr. Parris&#39;s logic makes perfect sense from a long-range, historical perspective, I for one, am not willing to let the Bush administration crank their flawed political agenda to it&#39;s conclusion.
    Call me an optimist, but I think that with adroit diplomacy and a large slice of humble pie the US could salvage it&#39;s sullied reputation.
    Clearly, Bush and his univision cabal of yesmen are not capable of such feats.

    The two-pronged thrust of Bush&#39;s current re-election campaign seems to be- "Bush is a man of moral clarity" and, "Do you feel more secure/safer with Bush ( the presumptive "war President" ) in office?"

    Well, given the examples of past far-right exemplars of "moral clarity"- from Jerry Falwell to Rush Limbaugh- I would have to conclude that "moral clarity" is a pretty flimsy framework upon which to hang the future of my country.
    In fact, it would seem that, in the Bush administration, exibiting even the faintest glimmer of clarity at all ( see: Colin Powell), is pretty much a one-way ticket to ridicule and political Siberia.

    "Do I feel safer now?"...hmmm.
    Didn&#39;t Bush declare "Mission accomplished" last June?
    The "war" was over?
    It would seem then, that by his own definition, every casualty/fatality since then has been at the hands of "terrorists".
    Thus, America has suffered continuing losses to "terrorist attacks" nearly every day for the past 11 months.
    Hardly a ringing endorsement for the Bush definition of "security".

    I would love to be around in fifty years to debate the value of the failed Bush foreign policy ( which presumably will run it&#39;s full and ignominious course), but from the perspective of the present it would appear to be a terrible price to pay simply to allow the Republicans the opportunity to "keep heaving".
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    Originally posted by Rat Faced+10 May 2004 - 08:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced @ 10 May 2004 - 08:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@9 May 2004 - 23:52
    I didn&#39;t read the whole article but I got the gist in the first paragraphs.

    Mathew doesn&#39;t understand that America and more importantly the world is not to be "experimented" on.
    Ah, you should have given it &#39;till the end of the 2nd paragraph [/b][/quote]
    Don&#39;t quite getcha there Rat.
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    Originally posted by Busyman@9 May 2004 - 16:52


    Mathew doesn&#39;t understand that America and more importantly the world is not to be "experimented" on.

    Apparently, Bush doesn&#39;t understand that either.
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    Originally posted by clocker+10 May 2004 - 22:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 10 May 2004 - 22:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@9 May 2004 - 16:52


    Mathew doesn&#39;t understand that America and more importantly the world is not to be "experimented" on.

    Apparently, Bush doesn&#39;t understand that either. [/b][/quote]
    Nor does Tony it seems..

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