Bush's Speech..

[j2k4]

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[j2k4]

Originally posted by lil_z@24 March 2003 - 03:38
how did they get the pows? ambush on the shippers?
i think if bush threatens about the pows being safe, theyll hurt them. theyre gonna have a tough fight in baghdad. i predict many casualties. fuckin idiots. bomb those fuckin military bases NOW! (im not usually like this, but theyre not civilians, so ah well). (i dont know what im thinkin lately, ive changed i lil).

u see they know theyre gonna lose, but instead of surrendering, theyre gonna kill as many of us as possible first. damn saddam. they needed to get someone in there and just snuff him, and all the imposters. i wanna play hitman2 now.

Apparently they ambushed what they call "follow-on" support-in this case, a maintenance company that was behind the main battle column.
I think like you they have to take 'em when and where they can, but I think Saddam has his forces and strategies arrayed in such a way as to cause maximum loss of life, because, as you say, he can't win.

I hope the "humanitarian aid" is well-escorted.

I have one more thing:
Have you ever heard the sixties phrase "If a tree falls in the forest, and nobody is around to hear it, does it make any noise?"
I have a corollary:
If an event occurs, and the media doesn't report it, does it actually happen?
I find it helpful to keep this and it's reverse in mind when ingesting any media output.

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by j2k4+24 March 2003 - 02:23--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 24 March 2003 - 02:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--lil_z@24 March 2003 - 02:58
ok j2 now what about the english plane being shot down.&nbsp; whadya think?

I think it&#39;s a goddamn shame and heads should roll-

What do you think about our P.O.W. s?

War IS hell.

My fingers remain crossed and I continue to pray. [/b][/quote]
I disagree.

Heads should roll over other Blue on Blue (but accidents DO happen, you have to bear this in mind) but not this one.

Patriot is an AUTOMATIC defence system. The accident should be investigated, i agree....however unless the Patriot had been set up incorrectly (unlikely...it fired and there are failsafes), then the mistake is in the communications systems.

ie No one is likely to be at fault with this one.


As to the POWs, my prayers are with them.......but Mr Bush is the one that started this particular TYPE of propaganda (which is against the Geneva Convention) with a certain Camp in Afganistan, and then another in Cuba.

If you condemn Hussain for this, you also have to condemn Bush for doing the same (with many more Prisoners).

Ive been doing that for a long time now

[Z]

but we keep the prisoners according to the geneva convention, dont we?. (i dunno about the taliban in cuba). thats what they say. apparently we give them proper food and medical help. this is what they want us to think, and i would like to continue to think this. it is a possiblity that the iraqis will do the same, but doubtful. i posted a short article in the lounge about the POWs from the gulf war. we&#39;ve got way more POWs, so theyre gonna keep as many as possible, but saddam wont care bout them after. we&#39;ll give them back. will they?

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by lil_z@24 March 2003 - 21:29
but we keep the prisoners according to the geneva convention, dont we?. (i dunno about the taliban in cuba). thats what they say. apparently we give them proper food and medical help. this is what they want us to think, and i would like to continue to think this. it is a possiblity that the iraqis will do the same, but doubtful. i posted a short article in the lounge about the POWs from the gulf war. we&#39;ve got way more POWs, so theyre gonna keep as many as possible, but saddam wont care bout them after. we&#39;ll give them back. will they?

George Bush refuses to consider them POWs, despite a ruling from Geneva.


Granted, I dont believe for a second they were ever treated, or will be treated, worse than Coalition POWs...(indeed a lot better)... all of the leading authorities still claim they have been abused of their basic Human Rights.

They have been &#39;paraded&#39; in front of the worlds Media in the same way as the current crop of US prisoners...so in this at least, Bush cant really complain.


Im sure that any Iraqi&#39;s captured will be treated according to the Geneva Convention, we have already been told they will be POWs....or will they?

Have you seen any of them on TV? I believe i have, as part of the general reporting.

Question:

Isnt this also against the Convention, unless their faces are blanked out? You can still identify them, even if its not the &#39;parading&#39; that Iraq is guilty off.

This is a general question...as quite frankly i have no idea...but it certainly would appear so.

If not....then where does the &#39;Freedom of the Press&#39; stop, and &#39;Propaganda&#39; begin?

[Z]

well u really cant apply freedom of the press to this situation. its being controlled, and they also like to tell us that we are seeing more here than ever before (including the vietnam war). true? i dont think so. and geoge bush refuses to call them POWs? what are they, refugees?&#33; thats funny. they are fuckin bound and lined up on the beach w/ no shoes. but i think we are helping them. did u read the article i posted? wow, thats brutal. we dont do that. no matter what they say about the afghanis. oh no, we have no roof in cuba&#33; ahh, the sun&#33; fuck we have human rights, but the iraqis will lie about this. they (americans) will get brutalized and torchered. some r gonna die. we need ta raid dat shit&#33; its all propaganda, for us and them. even tho they already have a terrible image with their govt. they have patriotism only cuz we&#39;re invading&#33; not cuz of saddam&#33;

[MagicNakor]

A number of them are already dead.

Sometimes watching news other than American helps in getting the whole picture.

[Z]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@24 March 2003 - 22:58
A number of them are already dead.

Sometimes watching news other than American helps in getting the whole picture.

r u tryin to be a smartass? i dont live in the us. i watch BBC newsworld for dis shit. i live in canada. that article is canadian. how many r dead? where did u see this? i havent watched it today so...
and how do they know for sure??

[MagicNakor]

No. I&#39;m not trying to be a smartass.

I live in Canada, as well.

I don&#39;t know how many are dead. Five, perhaps?

If people really want to know, send me a PM and I&#39;ll give you the link.

The footage isn&#39;t exactly..allowed..by the Geneva convention.

[Z]

really? is it real footage tho?? its not from the news...
wow, thats kinda scary.