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    And to all the others who didn't quite get my other point - the US is projecting an image, their actions are being interpreted by friends and foes.
    Whether those perceptions are right or wrong is not for me to judge. All I was saying is, that you should ask yourself why you have enemies, why people in the middle east resent your involvement rather than discount them all as a bunch of criminals and weirdos which need to be wiped off this earth. And my other question was, isn't this current war making that perception worse, and would that be the same, if it was backed by the UN?
    thank you. this is exactly what i was trying to say before.

    j2k4 - No! they dont need money to train. they dont need money to terrorize. these organizations are all over the world! destroying a government which supplies terrorists with money and such (some places in africa) would have an impact on terrorism, but it certainly wouldnt abolish it. suicide bombers in israel need to be supplied with a bomb. the governments are not the main source of funds for terrorism. there is so much dirty money floating around, black markets, etc. that a government is not necessary to provide terror money. training camps may be necessary. and it is scary to think that we cant find and dont destroy these places. i dont know... but i do know that taking any amounts of gov'ts (more than 2 of which is not going to happen) will not stop global terrorism, and will increase the amount of hatred towards the US.

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    lil z-
    I stand by my post.


    Here's something interesting:
    Dearborn, Michigan, U.S.A. is home to the largest population of ex-pat Iraqis in the U.S.; I will make the assumption their commentary has credibility here.

    They, through their community leaders, wish it to be known they support U.S. efforts. They realize the war is necessary, and hope Saddam is toppled, so they can return home and live in peace. They are working with U.S. authorities to set a frame-work for re-building and running Iraq as soon as they can return there after the war is over.
    They all left Iraq because of Saddam's oppression, and consider themselves lucky to have made it to the U.S.

    Of course, I suppose since they made it here, instead of, say, France, and some of them have actually become American citizens, they have no credibility?

    Check the FOXNEWS website.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    j2k4 -
    ok great. but what exactly are u trying to say or prove?

    foxnews...hahaha!!!
    thats almost worse than CNN!

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    Originally posted by lil_z@21 March 2003 - 02:43
    j2k4 -
    ok great. but what exactly are u trying to say or prove?

    foxnews...hahaha!!!
    thats almost worse than CNN!
    Oh-I forgot-You only believe what you read on links.

    I tried.

    Poor, poor, Iraqis-never get to go home now. American now-no credibility.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

    -Mark Twain

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    ahh whatever. u dont make much sense neways

    it depends greatly on what the links are. these seem like legit sites, so i will go by them. personal web pages are prob worse than CNN! (look, cnn is the worst of the big news', then fox. [haha, still laughin !]
    and the american news is definately the most biased on these subjects, so u really cant trust all of it and just go and take the news' point of view.

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    Originally posted by lil_z@21 March 2003 - 04:45
    ahh whatever. u dont make much sense neways

    it depends greatly on what the links are. these seem like legit sites, so i will go by them. personal web pages are prob worse than CNN! (look, cnn is the worst of the big news', then fox. [haha, still laughin !]
    and the american news is definately the most biased on these subjects, so u really cant trust all of it and just go and take the news' point of view.
    I'm glad you are no longer undecided.

    Don't let anybody talk you out of your point of view.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

    -Mark Twain

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    Props to all the ppl out there figthing for this country... Bush i dont know if he knows that iraq has weapons but they must have something while we the u.s are attacking... GOOD LUCK TO THE US and all the countries hellpping....


    Hey maybe well get free gass...

  8. The Drawing Room   -   #128
    Originally posted by j2k4+21 March 2003 - 05:44--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 21 March 2003 - 05:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--lil_z@21 March 2003 - 04:45
    ahh whatever.&nbsp; u dont make much sense neways

    it depends greatly on what the links are.&nbsp; these seem like legit sites, so i will go by them.&nbsp; personal web pages are prob worse than CNN&#33; (look, cnn is the worst of the big news&#39;, then fox. [haha, still laughin &#33;]
    and the american news is definately the most biased on these subjects, so u really cant trust all of it and just go and take the news&#39; point of view.
    I&#39;m glad you are no longer undecided.

    Don&#39;t let anybody talk you out of your point of view. [/b][/quote]
    im sorry? im undecided/decided about what now?
    whats my point of view? im taking every point of view. just cuz im persistent about what ive been talking about (i dont remember now ) doesnt need to draw sarcasm (or whatever that tone/mood was).
    aight then.

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    Originally posted by lil_z@21 March 2003 - 06:26
    aight then.
    Ebonics?

    I was referring to the post with which you started this-you were casting about for opinions, then; now you&#39;re not.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

    -Mark Twain

  10. The Drawing Room   -   #130
    Originally posted by j2k4+21 March 2003 - 15:28--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 21 March 2003 - 15:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--lil_z@21 March 2003 - 06:26
    aight then.
    Ebonics?

    I was referring to the post with which you started this-you were casting about for opinions, then; now you&#39;re not. [/b][/quote]
    no actually, i said what do u think. i never said what do i think.
    u never answered my question on what im undecided about??

    ebonics? no that would be : aight den, bredren.

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