This Is Too Good....

[MagicNakor]

Oh, that's bad.

You should be punished.

[protak]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@2 July 2004 - 01:43
Oh, that's bad.

You should be punished.

I know man, it's getting late, and to think I had four or five other pones....

Tim

[Rat Faced]

Hank,

I know you aimed your post at Busyman, howeer i'll answer as a "Screaming Liberal"...as I classed myself a 4 too...


1/ I have attacked Clinton on this board, and i still think he's the Best President youve produced in the last 30 years (although I have a personal liking for Carter that has nothig to do with politics)

2/ The last thing the Clinton Administration did was warn Bush that Bin Laden and terrorism would be his biggest problem in this term of office. His answer was to slash anti-terrorism funding.

3/ Not a Democrat, as the Democrats were labelled 6-7 (depending upon Leadership) in that Poll...so he has been consistant in saying he isnt a Democrat. There are plenty of politics, even in the USA that are further to the Left...they just arent major Parties in your system, which is geared to the Right totally.

I could ask how the Richest country in the world has the same Child Mortality rates as Malasia, one of the poorest, to point out how policies that care more about corporations than they do people really fucks up a country...but i wont, its not the issue.

4/ That depends upon how bad Busyman wants to get rid of Bush, and where he lives. If hes in a safe Democrat or Republican State, he may well follow his consiance and vote for Nadar. If he's in a swing State then he may feel that the Democrats are the lesser of too evils and vote because of that, and not because he supports the Democrats.


Certainly if i was in the USA, i would be doing 4/ ..... Not because i support the Democrats, i see very little difference between the 2.... except one fucks you up the ass while smiling and distracting you, the other just comes right on out and says it. If however, your gonna get a Butt Fucking anyway, its a little nicer for it to be polite


Paul

[Busyman]

Originally posted by BigBank_Hank+1 July 2004 - 22:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BigBank_Hank @ 1 July 2004 - 22:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@1 July 2004 - 06:47
1. Clinton is not President, Bush is.

2. You will even admit that what&#39;s going on during this administration (war and recession), is vastly different from the previous one (smaller war, great economy and blowjobs).

3. I&#39;m not a Democrat.

4. I don&#39;t care for Kerry much either.

1. Clinton used to be a politician. You said that we should question our politicians but you never have anything to say about any Democrats. I pointed out to you there Clinton had been a topic of discussion as of late and you never posted in any of those discussions. I guess because Clinton has left office he is off limits to criticism now?

2. I will admit that what’s going in this administration is vastly different from the previous. The war on terror wouldn’t even be a war on terror if Clinton worried about Osama as much as he did Monica. We had three chances to get take him out and we let them all get away.

3. You say that you aren’t a Democrat but I distinctly remember you consider yourself liberal. I remember that you voted yourself a 4 in my poll before it got deleted. Now if you lean towards the left but you’re not a democrat what does that make you?

4. I don’t blame you for not liking Kerry. No one seems to be all that impressed with him. So I guess you’ll be voting for Nader then? [/b][/quote]
1. Clinton isn&#39;t World News atm. I said previously that I&#39;d take Kerry over Bush. I feel he is the lesser of two evil (much lesser). Where was the Clinton topic? He had an interview on 60 Minutes, a new book, and a testimonial on 9/11. He is not in office nor does he now affect my life. I never said he was off limits but have you seen how many posts I have in a day.

Not many....so I might have missed the Anti-Clinton thread.

2. .....and Bush didn&#39;t seemed too worried either but, "Let&#39;s get Saddam&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;".

3. Do you know what a Democrat is? What is a European that&#39;s votes the same way in your poll.........a Democrat?

4. No

[BigBank_Hank]

Vid has a thread dedicated to Bubba in the Talk Club.

and Bush didn&#39;t seemed too worried either but, "Let&#39;s get Saddam&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;".

I think that you may be forgetting that before the invasion of Iraq we went into Afghanistan and defeated the Taliban and went after Bin Laden.

[clocker]

The Taliban has been defeated?
Deposed perhaps, but they appear to be pretty active to me.
Not to mention the soldiers they are still managing to kill.

[BigBank_Hank]

The Taliban rule in Afghanistan is over. The majority of the fighters have either been killed or left the country.

They are still active in small pockets but the numbers aren’t great.

I like how you look at things Clocker. We defeat an army of fighters and kill the majority of them and the thing that you focus on is the handfuls that are left. We have to go cave by cave to find the rest of them but we are going to get the rest of them.

[clocker]

The defeated Taliban.
Even more.
Pretty active for a "few pockets of resistence" don&#39;t you think?
It is feared that the "few" remaining Taliban fighters will be sufficient to delay the upcoming elections in Afghanistan AND, even the US Army admits that it&#39;s control of the country barely extends outside of Kabul.

Interesting way you describe "victory", BBH.

[Rat Faced]

The Loya Jirga, an ancient pre-feudal tradition held under the shadows of bayonets to install democracy is an insult to the masses of this war ravaged country. This Jirga was held not to give the people of Afghanistan the "present of democracy" but to justify the aggression and the rulership of its puppets.

If the Loya Jirga could be held by Genghis Khan, then it is not very strange if George Bush also convenes it. In reality there is not much difference in the present policies of George W. Bush and those executed by Genghis Khan in the twelfth century. The only difference is that Bush has more sophisticated and destructive weaponry.

The participants of the Jirga comprise of mainly the afghan elite who fled with their wealth to the West after the 1978 Saur [spring] Revolution and the Afghan war lords who have been fighting for loot and power in and around their fiefdoms. The main aim of this congregation was to reach an agreement on the loot of the warlords and the continuation of the plunder of Afghan resources (including pipelines) by the conglomerates in which the "returned" elite could be agents with hefty commissions.

Very slanted to the left, but basically true as to the facts... Why dont the left sites admit that not all "Conglomerates" are bad? If people didnt trade we&#39;d all starve.... The amount of Corporate presence, who they are and what they want however is cause for concern. McDonalds, Coca Cola etc arent the ones here en mass....

The West imported the "Leadership" and paid off the Warlords (who by the way, supply most of the worlds Opium, but i guess thats OK... I mean, heroin is a poor mans drug, isnt it?)

The "Congress" consists of the Warlords (who arent exactly voted in, its survival of the fittest) and the Afgans that disappeared when Afganistan became Socialist (ie Before Russian Occupation) and didnt return until after the American Invasion.

They werent the ones that fought the Russians of course, as these are now the enemy.... except for a few of the Northern Opium Growers who are our friends...

I just wish someone would make up their mind as to who the enemy actually is, instead of changing their minds as their wealth...erm, i mean the downtrodden...is effected.




The Warlords control the areas outside of Kabul, and the Rights of Afgans are actually less than they were under the Taliban...at least they followed Religious Law, bloody rough, but you knew where you stood. You werent shot or Raped coz the guys felt like it.

As to the Taliban, in the 80s we all heard EXACTLY the same thing coming from the Kremlin...except at the time, we treated and reported on them as hero&#39;s... they were afterall part of mujahidin. Except they fought for Religious reasons (against communism) and not to protect their opium crops like the rest of the mujahidin warlords.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@2 July 2004 - 13:14
The Taliban rule in Afghanistan is over. The majority of the fighters have either been killed or left the country.

They are still active in small pockets but the numbers aren’t great.

I like how you look at things Clocker. We defeat an army of fighters and kill the majority of them and the thing that you focus on is the handfuls that are left. We have to go cave by cave to find the rest of them but we are going to get the rest of them.

Hank you remind of the "rest of America" that easily believed (back in the day) the certain folks were Communists just because the government accused them of it.

..or the rich politician that has the answers for folks in poverty but has never gone to impoverished areas.

You buy the company line so easily in your narrow-minded world.

Btw I&#39;m surprised you haven&#39;t mentioned the discovery of cyclosarin in Iraq.

Want elaborate?