This Is Too Good....

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Busyman@2 July 2004 - 15:51
Btw I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the discovery of cyclosarin in Iraq.

Want elaborate?

Elaborate on what, B?

Even FOXNEWS reported right up front the shells were from the '80s.

Do you suppose, in our extraordinary "narrow-mindedness" that we somehow missed this?

Or was it you who missed it?

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by Busyman@2 July 2004 - 20:51
Btw I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the discovery of cyclosarin in Iraq.

Want elaborate?

I know why you want him to mention this... and your evil.

Evil i say

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Rat Faced+2 July 2004 - 16:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced @ 2 July 2004 - 16:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@2 July 2004 - 20:51
Btw I&#39;m surprised you haven&#39;t mentioned the discovery of cyclosarin in Iraq.

Want elaborate?

I know why you want him to mention this... and your evil.

Evil i say


[/b][/quote]
Not evil, Rat-

Merely a bit wrong-headed.

Oooops-now he&#39;ll never agree with me, ever again.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by j2k4+2 July 2004 - 17:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 &#064; 2 July 2004 - 17:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by Rat Faced+2 July 2004 - 16:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced &#064; 2 July 2004 - 16:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@2 July 2004 - 20:51
Btw I&#39;m surprised you haven&#39;t mentioned the discovery of cyclosarin in Iraq.

Want elaborate?

I know why you want him to mention this... and your evil.

Evil i say


[/b]

Not evil, Rat-

Merely a bit wrong-headed.

Oooops-now he&#39;ll never agree with me, ever again. [/b][/quote]
Actually j2 I&#39;m talking about cyclosarin.

The shells were recently discovered.

Hank was quick to point out the sarin that was discovered as proof that Bush was right all along about WMD in Iraq.

Cyclosarin is much worse.

<!--QuoteBegin-j2k4
Do you suppose, in our extraordinary "narrow-mindedness" that we somehow missed this?[/quote]

Well...ok then.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Busyman@2 July 2004 - 21:45
Cyclosarin is much worse.

Just so-

Still doesn&#39;t satisfy the quibbling about WMD, especially considering it&#39;s ostensible origins, and is only mention-worthy insofar as the shells are worth long green on the terrorist "after-market".

Interesting, isn&#39;t it, that all the stray terrorists seem to regard Iraq as a sort of shopping mall these days for scaring up the odd weaponry to supplement their arsenals, eh?

Given that Saddam had long ago given up WMD, what makes them think they can find what the U.N. inspectors could not?

[Busyman]

Originally posted by j2k4+2 July 2004 - 23:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 &#064; 2 July 2004 - 23:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@2 July 2004 - 21:45
Cyclosarin is much worse.

Just so-

Still doesn&#39;t satisfy the quibbling about WMD, especially considering it&#39;s ostensible origins, and is only mention-worthy insofar as the shells are worth long green on the terrorist "after-market". [/b][/quote]
Well will ya please tell Hank that?&#33;&#33;?

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Busyman+2 July 2004 - 22:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 2 July 2004 - 22:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by j2k4@2 July 2004 - 23:20
<!--QuoteBegin-Busyman

@2 July 2004 - 21:45
Cyclosarin is much worse.

Just so-

Still doesn&#39;t satisfy the quibbling about WMD, especially considering it&#39;s ostensible origins, and is only mention-worthy insofar as the shells are worth long green on the terrorist "after-market".

Well will ya please tell Hank that?&#33;&#33;? [/b][/quote]
Don&#39;t worry; Hank knows.

Any thoughts on my last point?

[protak]

Originally posted by j2k4+2 July 2004 - 22:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 2 July 2004 - 22:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@2 July 2004 - 21:45
Cyclosarin is much worse.

Just so-

Still doesn&#39;t satisfy the quibbling about WMD, especially considering it&#39;s ostensible origins, and is only mention-worthy insofar as the shells are worth long green on the terrorist "after-market".

Interesting, isn&#39;t it, that all the stray terrorists seem to regard Iraq as a sort of shopping mall these days for scaring up the odd weaponry to supplement their arsenals, eh?

Given that Saddam had long ago given up WMD, what makes them think they can find what the U.N. inspectors could not? [/b][/quote]
I&#39;d certainly like to hear more j2, by the sound&#39;s of it, I must of mist something, I was under the impression there were deeper agenda&#39;s.
Tim

[Biggles]

Originally posted by Busyman+3 July 2004 - 02:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 3 July 2004 - 02:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by j2k4+2 July 2004 - 17:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 &#064; 2 July 2004 - 17:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by Rat Faced@2 July 2004 - 16:06
<!--QuoteBegin-Busyman

@2 July 2004 - 20:51
Btw I&#39;m surprised you haven&#39;t mentioned the discovery of cyclosarin in Iraq.

Want elaborate?

I know why you want him to mention this... and your evil.

Evil i say

Not evil, Rat-

Merely a bit wrong-headed.

Oooops-now he&#39;ll never agree with me, ever again. [/b]

Actually j2 I&#39;m talking about cyclosarin.

The shells were recently discovered.

Hank was quick to point out the sarin that was discovered as proof that Bush was right all along about WMD in Iraq.

Cyclosarin is much worse.

<!--QuoteBegin-j2k4
Do you suppose, in our extraordinary "narrow-mindedness" that we somehow missed this?[/quote]

Well...ok then. [/b][/quote]
Not sure I would like to be killed by either really.


It is true that Iraq has became a huge mall for erstwhile terrorists. It is awash with their day to day tools - explosives, guns, rocket propelled grenades etc.

I think if the claims that he still had an active programme (rather than the odd handfull of 1980s shells that appear to pop up from time to time) and that he had direct links to OBL then it is a fair assumption that AQ has all the WMDs it can handle. 1) because it has taken so long to even start dismantling the Iraq resistance (if start is the right word) and 2) because we certainly have not found the items in question.

On the whole I think it would be better that we were wrong on both counts and there are no weapons and Saddam had no channels to send such weapons to AQ. The alternative would mean that we have made the world a much more dangerous place, not a safer place and that OBL is very pleased with events as they have turned out. None of these being the stated objective of the Coalition.

[j2k4]

The whole situation in Iraq vis a vis weapons bears, from this remove, a moderate resemblance to the breakup of the Soviet union, where the overwhelming concern and focus was nuclear materiel; the existence of "other" weaponry was, for the most part, never even addressed.

Seriously, when Soviet Migs are being discovered buried in the sand, your average terrorist outfit would, I think, secure a deal on metal detectors and head for the "beach", so to speak.