Musical Influence

[Rip The Jacker]

I don't like how parents blame music, video games, and other stuff for their children's actions, when its their fault.

"That kid played Vice City then shot some lady."
"This kid shot up this school, it was because of Manson."

Kids should know the difference of right and wrong. I've been playing violent games for all I can remember, how come I havn't shot anyone? Why? Because my parents raised me, and taught me the difference between right and wrong.

I think if your kid plays a game, then goes and shoots someone, you have at some point failed as a parent.

[Biggles]

I think it is fair to say that good though Pulp Fiction is, it should not be the main feature at the local kindergarten.

Children want to watch Dangermouse and Courage the Cowardly Dog, not good actors beating lumps out of each other in a realistic way. Kids are not stupid and understand comic book violence of the Bugs Bunny type is funny exactly because that is not what happens in real life.

It is not so much protecting innocence (which is a somewhat nebulous concept) as simply providing the appropriate tools at the appropriate time. One does not give a new born baby a T Bone steak to eat - not because steaks are bad (sorry to any vegans here) but because they are inappropriate - the child is simply not ready.

By the time a 15 year old is sneaking into 18 movies the difference is largely irrelevant and they are unlikely to be swayed one way or another.

Consequently, J2s comment about lack of parental involvement stands good.

[Biggles]

Originally posted by Rip The Jacker@7 July 2004 - 23:13
I don't like how parents blame music, video games, and other stuff for their children's actions, when its their fault.

"That kid played Vice City then shot some lady."
"This kid shot up this school, it was because of Manson."

Kids should know the difference of right and wrong. I've been playing violent games for all I can remember, how come I havn't shot anyone? Why? Because my parents raised me, and taught me the difference between right and wrong.

I think if your kid plays a game, then goes and shoots someone, you have at some point failed as a parent.

Allowing them access to fire arms in the first place would seem a starter for ten to me.

[hobbes]

Gemby,

You remind me of myself a few years back. Your mind is blossoming, like your body, from immaturity into adulthood.

This is a process and not the simple turn of a switch.

Just remember, there are certain teachers out there who want to make their agendas yours. You are just a novice and you will drink deeply from their wells.

What an exciting time for you.

You no longer see the world in black/white, but appreciate the many shades of grey.

[Gemby!]

Originally posted by hobbes@7 July 2004 - 23:20
Gemby,

You remind me of myself a few years back. Your mind is blossoming, like your body, from immaturity into adulthood.

This is a process and not the simple turn of a switch.

Just remember, there are certain teachers out there who want to make their agendas yours. You are just a novice and you will drink deeply from their wells.

What an exciting time for you.

You no longer see the world in black/white, but appreciate the many shades of grey.

greys kool B)

[Biggles]

Originally posted by hobbes@7 July 2004 - 23:20
Gemby,

You remind me of myself a few years back. Your mind is blossoming, like your body, from immaturity into adulthood.

This is a process and not the simple turn of a switch.

Just remember, there are certain teachers out there who want to make their agendas yours. You are just a novice and you will drink deeply from their wells.

What an exciting time for you.

You no longer see the world in black/white, but appreciate the many shades of grey.

It is the new black apparently.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Biggles@7 July 2004 - 18:14
I think it is fair to say that good though Pulp Fiction is, it should not be the main feature at the local kindergarten.

Children want to watch Dangermouse and Courage the Cowardly Dog, not good actors beating lumps out of each other in a realistic way. Kids are not stupid and understand comic book violence of the Bugs Bunny type is funny exactly because that is not what happens in real life.

It is not so much protecting innocence (which is a somewhat nebulous concept) as simply providing the appropriate tools at the appropriate time. One does not give a new born baby a T Bone steak to eat - not because steaks are bad (sorry to any vegans here) but because they are inappropriate - the child is simply not ready.

By the time a 15 year old is sneaking into 18 movies the difference is largely irrelevant and they are unlikely to be swayed one way or another.

Consequently, J2s comment about lack of parental involvement stands good.

I thank you, Biggles, but I feel it also true that parental prerogative has been subsumed by, and subordinated to the state; often children, via peer input/pressure, feel sorely put-upon when such is not truly the case.

Parent/child relationships are inherently and periodically fragile; the state's big feet have doomed more than their share-over here, anyway.

[MicroScreen2]

i just posted in the other topic