Dems Refuse To Release Tape Of Hatefest

[Rat Faced]

There are assholes in all walks of life and with every political belief.

SJ & J2K4,

I was trying to point out that somewhere, someone will think Limburgh is a screaming Liberal...

Unless you have a "Reference" to go by, then your opinion on what is Liberal and what is Conservative is just as valid as that persons.


To me, all the mainstream US media is quite far to the Right. However that is because I come from a more "Liberal" environment, and our media does reflect that...

Im not saying that Im right, any more than im saying you are... however, this is the reason I support Studies into the subject rather more than your opinions.


Im sure that you will be able to come up with a study showing that the Media is Liberal, and depending upon who conducted the study, i'd then put as much weight to that Study as I have to the other one.

I have admitted that I really cannot judge, based on what opinions are expressed in this debate as my opinion is clouded by my "Liberal" attitude and the Media in the UK.

That is not backing out of the Debate, its actually admitting that my view is biased and I cannot rightfully argue the point. Its not my Culture, and my concept of what is "Liberal" is wholley different from yours...which are merely shades of "Conservatism" to me.


However, until i see a Study that shows the Media is "Liberally Biased" then I have to go with Clocker... he is the only one that has actually submitted any evidence rather than opinion.

[Biggles]

If people were disgusted with the Washington Post (I am not sure which side of the fence it falls) would they not simply buy another paper.

In Scotland one of the two Broadsheets (The Scotsman) was taken over and the new owners placed Andrew Neil in overall charge. Mr Neil is a right winger and took the paper from a centre Liberal stance to an anti Europe anti Scottish Parliament stance. He has over the subsequent years reduced the readership by over 35% - quite an achievement really. I switched to The Herald (as did many others) as I could not be doing with the daily moan about all things Liberal.

There was little in the way of a right wing media outlet in Scotland and it is interesting that they have perservered with the editorial stance despite the decline in income. Perhaps commercial bodies are altruistic after all.

If there is a perception that much of the media is Liberal is this not because that is generally what the population want? If they did not then they would all watch Fox and listen to the Lindbergh chap.

Is Ann Coulter real? She sounds like a Saturday Night Live creation.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by Biggles@18 July 2004 - 09:58
If people were disgusted with the Washington Post (I am not sure which side of the fence it falls) would they not simply buy another paper.

In Scotland one of the two Broadsheets (The Scotsman) was taken over and the new owners placed Andrew Neil in overall charge. Mr Neil is a right winger and took the paper from a centre Liberal stance to an anti Europe anti Scottish Parliament stance. He has over the subsequent years reduced the readership by over 35% - quite an achievement really. I switched to The Herald (as did many others) as I could not be doing with the daily moan about all things Liberal.

There was little in the way of a right wing media outlet in Scotland and it is interesting that they have perservered with the editorial stance despite the decline in income. Perhaps commercial bodies are altruistic after all.

If there is a perception that much of the media is Liberal is this not because that is generally what the population want? If they did not then they would all watch Fox and listen to the Lindbergh chap.

Is Ann Coulter real? She sounds like a Saturday Night Live creation.

Indeed she is real. Another brainwashed automaton.

What does the reference mean?

I assume that the way she actually is seems exagerated as if on SNL.

[Biggles]

Originally posted by Busyman@18 July 2004 - 14:06

Is Ann Coulter real? She sounds like a Saturday Night Live creation. [/QUOTE]
Indeed she is real. Another brainwashed automaton.

What does the reference mean?

I assume that the way she actually is seems exagerated as if on SNL. [/quote]
Above someone quoted her advocating the execution of someone to frighten Liberals.

[clocker]

Oh yes, she is very real.

SNL would have made a more believable caricature.

[Biggles]

Coulter is a Scottish surname, could I make a plea that she is not deported back like Willie in The Simpsons was in one episode.

[j2k4]

Okay-

So far, I gather I'm out about $.83, given Clocker's stumbling over O'Really's statements (though I must insist I find it totally unfair to have O'Really's comments count, just 'cuz he works for FOXNEWS).

Ann Coulter's commentary didn't vouch for killing libs, it merely said John Walker Lindh's execution would demonstrate to liberals that they were not invulnerable to terrorism, and they would do well to remember this when comes time to support the Government's efforts against terrorism.

Pat Robertson's comments about the Supreme Court pale in comparison to anything else I've seen, and, while subject to interpretation (as is everything else), to contend they broach the barrier we speak of here is, to put it mildly, a bit of a reach.

So, to sum up:

A total of $.75 goes to Clocker, broken down as follows:

$.50 for the O'Really quotes, but only $.25 of it for vitriol; Bill bloviates with the best of them, and so I qualify for a $.25 H.A.D. (Hot Air Discount) on the original $.50 penalty.

The other $.25 is for Bill's appalling grammar.

Coulter's comment is of questionable value, but I'll throw in $.25 because she did say "kill" and not least of all because I am a compassionate Conservative.

Robertson's observation about the Supreme Court is spot-on, but I will spend the $.08 gladly, just to rid myself of the single nickel and the few useless pennies.

Geez, and I thought you'd all fold your tents and go home.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Biggles@18 July 2004 - 09:17
Coulter is a Scottish surname, could I make a plea that she is not deported back like Willie in The Simpsons was in one episode. 

You all make too much of poor Annie; she has merely adopted the tactic of defending Conservative ideals by use of Liberal tactics. ;

Actually, I probably should have saved us some cyber-ink by suggesting you all visit this site, http://www.spinsanity.com/, as it does a superb job of highlighting rhetoric and spin on both sides.

Inflammatory rhetoric can be fun, but is not often constructive; I sincerely wish it wasn't the favored tool of every pundit under the sun. )

[Busyman]

Reason magazine or The Nation

You make the call.

[clocker]

Originally posted by j2k4@18 July 2004 - 07:34

You all make too much of poor Annie; she has merely adopted the tactic of defending Conservative ideals by use of Liberal tactics. ;

"Liberal tactics"?

Nevermind.

Life's too short.