Proposal For Bittorent Torrent Section

[RealitY]

Originally posted by beeman+26 July 2004 - 10:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (beeman &#064; 26 July 2004 - 10:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-rookiecrd1@25 July 2004 - 23:47
Hmm, any other information on this topic and past court cases, etc?

unfortunatly NOT. but this is because there has NEVER EVER EVER been a court case involved in ANYTHING TODO with bittorrent. the main guys would NEVER file a suite with the laws as they are at the moment because IF they loose (just like when they lost to kazaa) it would set a presedent allowing anyone who want to set up a tracker and share there files risk free.

all they are doing (and will do in the near future) is send out take down notices. as long as you comply (ie remove the file in question) then theres no risk at all. [/b][/quote]
Exactly, so if your ready for a little heat and have the time to deal with it then go for it.
After all this may be the quikest way to get what you want, more traffic to this site...

[sparsely]

I think

Bittorent Torrent Section, To post torrent links

would be teh perfect title for it too, it would rival the forum title for length and rediculousness.

[Jay]

go for it.

[Broken]

The thing with Bit Torrent is that you are hosting no files.
You are only hosting a type of zipped text file, that&#39;s it. And that is legal.
"The powers that be", don&#39;t like it. They will try to shoot you down for it, but they have no ammunition to do it with.

You have to realize what a torrent file is, and be willing to tell anyone that questions you to go to hell there ain&#39;t nothing illegal about what I&#39;m doing. There are no file hosted here.

Although, it is a common thing in the Bit Torrent world that if the copywirte holder should request the removal of a torrent, it will be be removed. In most cases this will solve most problems.

The true legal risk is not to a site, but the users. Because although the torrent fille maybe legal, downloading and uploading content by use of that file that the user has no right to is illegal. But, that is the risk users take everytime they download a song off Kazaa, or use Bit Torrent and any other p2p application.

[Broken]

Originally posted by bawa@Klite_user@26 July 2004 - 17:30

If the files r hosted on the same server where the file r being shared with Bt then it will be ilegal but if the files r mirrored or being shared thro users(Seeding) it will legal.
correct me....

If this site was to put up a copy of say... DOOM 3. It would be absolutly 100% illegal, and I&#39;m sure the game manufature would not waste a second sueing the owner of this forum for every red cent that they can get.

However if a torrent was posted for DOOM 3, all that would be hosted on this site is a text file that would contain something like....
File Name: Doom 3
File Size : 1.63GB
Tracker IP : 222.333.2222.XXXX

None of that information is illegal. So, the torrent file is not illegal because it contains no part of the file.

However, if someone should download this torrent and put it into a Bit Torrent client and starts to recive the game data, and they do not have legal rights to it (i.e. they do not own a copy of the game), they are doing something illegal. Although it is not very likely they will be caught, it would be a possiblilty. And this would be a intellectual copywrite crime.

Which is why a disclaimer&#092;warning should be posted

None of the files shown here are actually hosted on this server. This server only host Torrent Files.

The Torrents are provided solely by this site&#39;s users. The administrator of this site does not varify a users right to obtain or distipute files from the torrents which are hosted on this site. All post are made in Good Faith, and must comply with the rules of this site. It is the responsiblity of the users of this site to follow all laws which maybe applicable in the City, State, County, or Country in which they reside. The administrator of this site cannot be held responsible for what its users post, or any other actions of its users. You may not use this site to distribute or download any material when you do not have the legal rights to do so, if you have any questions to your legal right to a file do not post a torrent to it on this site. It is your own responsibility to adhere to these terms. Vilotation of these terms may have serious legal reprocutions.
Upon request to the administrator or other offical repersentative of this site any Torrent(s) which violate any of the terms set forth in the above statement will be removed for this site. Proof of ownership to the file that can be obtained through the use of a torrent file maybe requested from the petitioner and the poster before removal can take place. If either the petitioner or the poster should fail to provide proof of ownership, the disposition of the torrent file will be decided by the administrator until such time proof is provided.

[BawA]

Hey rookie just to be sure at 1st release this service under Beta and testing purpose and dont link it to this board and cheak if u get any problem with ligale issues after a while if u didnt get any kinda of problem merge it with this board, alltho i know u wont get any problem if we&#39;ll only post torrent links.

[rookiecrd1]

What about a separate forum as an offshoot of FSt mabe called TST (torrent sharing talk). It can be a sister site that will have the same colors, logos etc. I think this would kill 2 birds with one stone. It will bring more traffic to FSt while also allowing us to stay safe here at FST as I would put it on a new server and hope for some donations.

Any opinions?

Brian

[tracydani]

How will it bring more traffic here? What connects it to this forum(other then the fact we would all know about it)?

Wouldn&#39;t that just mean another forum to join?

TD

[DanB]

Originally posted by tracydani@27 July 2004 - 14:19
How will it bring more traffic here? What connects it to this forum(other then the fact we would all know about it)?

Wouldn&#39;t that just mean another forum to join?

TD

I must agree with TD here


I dont think creating a seperate forum would be a good idea to be honest, if anything it maight even detract people from here

[Spicker]

@Brian

https://filesharingtalk.com/index.php...c=119238&st=60
scroll down and see wt beeman said.

running a tracker is pretty simple. if this forum is being run of a dedicated server its even better as you can use a c++ tracker.

jaigandhi5 contacted me and asked me a have a look in here. i run my own tracker with 20&#39;000 peers currently connected to it with vertually ZERO server load.

as for bandwith. trackers have come A LONG way scince you ran yours jaigandhi5 (btw the first ever tracker listed on thebeehive smile.gif ). there is a NEW protocal out for bittorrent that saves trackers 1200% bandwith (compact announce protocal).

my recommendation if you want to run a tracker FOR THIS forum is to get XBT and use there ipb hack. this will intergrate the tracker with the forums. meaning you would need to be a registered member of the forums to use the tracker (selectable i beleave). and to upload a torrent to the tracker you would just have to post it as an atachment in the apprapreate thread in your forums biggrin.gif

so we should have our own tracker as well

and dont make a new forum we wont get any new members and people will leave here and go to the other forum