O'reilly Vs. Moore

[Busyman]

Originally posted by BigBank_Hank+4 August 2004 - 20:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BigBank_Hank @ 4 August 2004 - 20:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by Busyman@4 August 2004 - 18:04

Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@4 August 2004 - 14:23
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@3 August 2004 - 15:10
Someone tell me why I should vote for Bush, please?
(I know I&#39;m off from my post but please oblige)

edit: Oh and btw I am not rich.

If I may let me turn this question around on you: why are you going to vote for Kerry? Just because he isn’t Bush? What do you see in him that makes you think that he will be a better leader than Bush?

Answering a question with a question?

Busy I know that you remember the thread that you made called Bush and the good he’s done, you even referenced it recently in a post. I pointed out a number of positive things that the President has done during his term. There’s no need for you and I to go over this again.

That brings me to my question. Why vote for Kerry? [/b][/quote]
No, no, I recall no positives in that thread (besides a laugh).

Hmmmm....maybe you did mention that the economy was turning around on page 6 or something..Oh wait&#33;&#33;

The thread was deleted before the economy made the "leap" that we see today.

[BigBank_Hank]

What I find amusing is that you can’t come up for a reason for voting for Kerry beside he isn’t George W. Bush, which is why you continue to attack him.

Lets try this for the third time. Why are going to vote for John Kerry?

[spinningfreemanny]

Originally posted by clocker+4 August 2004 - 23:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 4 August 2004 - 23:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-spinningfreemanny@4 August 2004 - 17:24


I&#39;m convinced that Hussein would not pass an opportunity to hurt the United States; he had every reason to and no reason not to.

Both true ( probably).
However, did he have the means to do anything about his not-so-secret desires?

NOPE. [/b][/quote]
How hard is it to drop a couple of million on a terrorist group?

[vidcc]

Originally posted by spinningfreemanny@4 August 2004 - 17:24
The political arena changed with 9-11; It was a huge wake up call to the U.S. that there was a call to action to be made against the United States&#39; enemies;Thats why it saddens me that Spain does not act on the aggressor; instead vouching for hiding and ultimately giving their countries control to the influence of madmen. We should always have ours and our allies interests first.

What changed on 911 was the fact the the USA had to face upto facts and not be so arrogant as to think it was so powerful that it was invincable. What didn&#39;t change was the right to attack any country that "looked at us funny"
Iraq wasn&#39;t the agressor...we were

Again i ask is it right that the cost of any mistakes made is worth the price as long as it&#39;s not the USA paying the price.

Your justification on iraq is based on the moved goalposts after the bad intelligence came to light.

I have neve made any pre defined criteria; In fact I&#39;ve made it a point to specify that most situations are unique from each other. Where is your line though vidcc? Do American civilians have to die in order for action?

yes you did..you said you pay no attention to "mad dictators or terrorists".... pray tell me why you feel the USA was a target, after all what could we have done to upset anyone?
And no American civilians don&#39;t have to die, but you had better be sure of your facts before american soldiers kill foriegn civilians ( oops sorry that is colateral and it&#39;s not american civilians dying so it&#39;s a price worth paying )

I&#39;m convinced that Hussein would not pass an opportunity to hurt the United States;

Oh well if you had only told us this from the start...after all that is hard evidence indeed...i&#39;m converted...better invade all the other countries that don&#39;t like us.

he had every reason to and no reason not to.

and what would those reasons be then?. I ask this because you say he has every reason to attack us

Soon Iraq will be able to democratically elect their leaders too; whens the last time they were able to do that? maybe never.

do you feel that this will stabalise the ME or have we made things worse?

[Busyman]

Originally posted by BigBank_Hank+4 August 2004 - 20:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BigBank_Hank &#064; 4 August 2004 - 20:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What I find amusing is that you can’t come up for a reason for voting for Kerry beside he isn’t George W. Bush, which is why you continue to attack him.

Lets try this for the third time. Why are going to vote for John Kerry? [/b]

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Answering a question with a question? [/quote]

[vidcc]

Originally posted by spinningfreemanny@4 August 2004 - 18:40
How hard is it to drop a couple of million on a terrorist group?

with thinking like this is it any wonder the USA is a target.

[BigBank_Hank]

Originally posted by Busyman+4 August 2004 - 19:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 4 August 2004 - 19:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@4 August 2004 - 20:39
What I find amusing is that you can’t come up for a reason for voting for Kerry beside he isn’t George W. Bush, which is why you continue to attack him.

Lets try this for the third time. Why are going to vote for John Kerry?

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Answering a question with a question?

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You can’t do it can you?

[vidcc]

Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@4 August 2004 - 19:32

&nbsp; &nbsp; You can’t do it can you?

I did...i put links to both official websites so you can read their policies

[clocker]

I found the Bush link to be funnier than anything I&#39;ve seen on TV lately ( well..maybe not funnier than Reno 911, but they are trying to be humorous).

I guess it just exemplifies the folly of electing politicians based on what they say they will do.
Based on his professed policies, hell...I&#39;d vote for Bush.
Based on what he&#39;s actually done to implement them...ha&#33;

With Bush, I feel that things will only get worse.
So yes, this year I feel that ABB IS a completely viable and responsible atitude to have.

[SuperJude™]

And see I am of the "disease was there and we only treated the symptoms" school of thought. Things got worse cause of what happened before Bush, and all I am saying is what does Mr. Kerry really represent?

I know what Bush represents and I know he loves this country, while I know Kerry loves this country but what exactly does he represent?

Mind you, his speech was......... I wish I had written it. Whomever the writer was, or if he wrote it himself, I was impressed.

Then again I get weepy when I read Gehrigs&#39; farewell at the stadium speech, so point being I would feel better if it was not August and I still knew nothing about this guy.

Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, the people who have come to Presidency while I have been an adult, I knew who they were in August. Kerry is still a question mark and what he seems to be (sorry to rip you off BigBankHank) is Not Bush.

-SJ™