Well It's Democracy

[Biggles]

Hobbes

Fair enough

Then the issue looks like it is going to be long and messy.

I do not know enough about the US constitution to contribute much more. I am a little surprised though - I thought Gay Rights were more advanced in the US.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Biggles@8 August 2004 - 21:52
Hobbes

Fair enough

Then the issue looks like it is going to be long and messy.

I do not know enough about the US constitution to contribute much more. I am a little surprised though - I thought Gay Rights were more advanced in the US.

It's not about Gay Rights.

It's about Equal Rights.

[Biggles]

Fair point.

I have never been a fan of positive discrimination.

Equal Rights for everyone - on the house, I'm buying!

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Biggles@8 August 2004 - 21:57
Fair point.

I have never been a fan of positive discrimination.

Equal Rights for everyone - on the house, I'm buying!

Slainte

:beerchug:

[MicroScreen2]

you cant really have equal rights when its a whole other kettle of fish

[spinningfreemanny]

I have a question...

is the tax status what gays need?: is that the reason they want marriage? because as far as government is concerned that should be the only thing that should be supplied if that is the only thing about marriage that government is concerned with.

I really don't know; I'm asking a real question. Maybe there is something else I'm overlooking.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by spinningfreemanny@8 August 2004 - 19:13
I have a question...

is the tax status what gays need?: is that the reason they want marriage? because as far as government is concerned that should be the only thing that should be supplied if that is the only thing about marriage that government is concerned with.

I really don't know; I'm asking a real question. Maybe there is something else I'm overlooking.

Manny,

Tax status is one of many things. As discussed earlier, they simply want equal rights.

Some are advocating States rights on this issue.

Imagine if you had to get married in every single State in the Union. You move jobs to another State, your union is null and void. That is absurd.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by MicroScreen2@8 August 2004 - 22:01
you cant really have equal rights when its a whole other kettle of fish

If you had a point to make you would have made it.

You are just trolling again and it's obvious.

[spinningfreemanny]

So J'pol, are you saying that a nationally recognized civil union be developed?

a hetersexual marriage license is valid in another state right?

[MicroScreen2]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+8 August 2004 - 21:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 8 August 2004 - 21:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MicroScreen2@8 August 2004 - 22:01
you cant really have equal rights when its a whole other kettle of fish

If you had a point to make you would have made it.

You are just trolling again and it&#39;s obvious. [/b][/quote]
trolling for what?

i&#39;m saying equivilent rules have to be made because gay marriage and traditional aren&#39;t the same thing, and you know it.

you&#39;ve said yourself it can&#39;t be holy. so what happens to the vows? does the lack of commitment to god mean a lack of commitment to each other? does it mean divorce is even easier?

if you think i&#39;m trolling i thought youud be above rising for the bait. but you dont do you, you&#39;re just trying to put me down for whatever dumb vendetta you&#39;ve got against me