Win Xp Service Pack 2 Poised To Destroy Most/all F

[Switeck]

Win XP Service Pack 2 poised to DESTROY most/all file-sharing networks!

...Because it includes a wee little 'security feature' which KILLS ALL outgoing connections made by a single program if too many connection attempts fail too quickly.

Guess what -- if your file-sharing program tries to download from 20+ people at once and not enough of them respond back QUICKLY enough... Win XP SP2 has decided your program is 'hostile' and blocks it.

Note: With saved ips for old download sources on unfinished downloads OFTEN being offline/gone-for-good, the LIKELYHOOD of tripping this 'security feature' is EXTREMELY LIKELY!

If you want to read some news articles about it, click one of these:
http://www.developerpipeline.com/tools/23904837
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/computi...softupdate.html
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showA...icleID=23902063

If you want some TECHNICAL information on if and how this may affect you (which may be the case even if you DON'T use Win XP&#33... click one of these links:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=192856
http://text.broadbandreports.com/for...9306~mode=full

User says Win XP SP2's 'security feature' knocks out e-mule:
http://www.warp2search.net/modules.php?nam...ticle&sid=19021

User and BEARSHARE DEVELOPERS says Win XP SP2's 'security feature' knocks out BearShare:
http://www.bearshare.net/showthread.php?t=30219


Note: Microsoft offers neither a 'cure' for this problem, nor a temporary workaround at this time that I am aware of. One reported 'fix' by tweaking registry settings found here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=314053

ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT WORK to solve this problem!

Oh yeah, the patch is probably 1-way too -- if you want to REMOVE it, format and reinstall!

[BawA]

even Windows Xp's Firewall Blocks P2p, once i enabled it i noticed that Klite Uploads is dropin and then hardly i could upload to one user, after disabling it everything came back to normal.
i think disabling the Firewall Option in SP2 may slove the p2p problems too.
well ill backup my Windows then install the fucking sp2.

[RealitY]

I did image my os first just in case I had any issues.
Although on eMule at 75k dl and 25k ul right now...

[killer04]

Why did i install sp2???? Overnet,azureus,ABC,dontwork well and crash

[sebastian_insua]

There is a patch which should work at: http://www.lvllord.de/4226fix/4226fix-en.htm

However it is not for the latest version of SP2 yet....

It cannot be changed via the registery as that would cause security problems as viruses could just disable the service too easily.

I don't know why so many people worry about SP2 it is a great improvemnet over what we already have....?

[Switeck]

Originally posted by bawa@Klite_user@7 August 2004 - 01:55
i think disabling the Firewall Option in SP2 may slove the p2p problems too.

Sorry, disabling the firewall option in SP2 will have no effect.

Your best hope if you install SP2...or rather your ONLY hope...is what sebastian_insua said:

"There is a patch which should work at: http://www.lvllord.de/4226fix/4226fix-en.htm

However it is not for the latest version of SP2 yet....

It cannot be changed via the registery as that would cause security problems as viruses could just disable the service too easily.

I don't know why so many people worry about SP2 it is a great improvemnet over what we already have....?"

The reason why we worry is Microsoft does NOT have our best interests in mind. Heck, at times I'm not even sure they have THEIR OWN best interests in mind!

SP2 is just a stepping stone to the rollout of 'trusted computing' -- where EVERYTHING requires Microsoft's permission (and paid-for license) to run. Play button replaced with a pay-per-view button...and Microsoft gets paid every time we click on it!

[Ariel_001]

Check out:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=314053

Specifically:

TcpNumConnections
Key: Tcpip\Parameters
Value Type: REG_DWORD - Number
Valid Range: 0 - 0xfffffe
Default: 0xfffffe
Description: This parameter limits the maximum number of connections that TCP can have open simultaneously.

Be sure to open ports too.

Anyways am going to test SP2 as soon it is officially released. Am going to check this out.
Can someone tell me the default limit?

[sebastian_insua]

I think it is limited at 10 connections but the patch which I mentioned (which works for an old version of SP2) changes this to 50 connections.

[Switeck]

Originally posted by Ariel_001@7 August 2004 - 10:05
Check out:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=314053

Specifically:

TcpNumConnections
Key: Tcpip\Parameters
Value Type: REG_DWORD - Number
Valid Range: 0 - 0xfffffe
Default: 0xfffffe
Description: This parameter limits the maximum number of connections that TCP can have open simultaneously.

The max number of TCP open at once will have to be lowered to a very low amount to avoid the 10 failed connections limit before automatic blocking kicks in.

Forget BitTorrent, forget E-mule, even forget Gnutella! They ALL open a lot of connections that are mostly guarenteed to fail the moment they are first run...seeking to retry old download sources.

Worse, the TCP limit may only be changing the underlying networking layer but not file-sharing program structure which seeks to call the networking layer. So it may attempt to open more connections than TCP limits allows. Do you know what happens when it continually exceeds that limit?

[sebastian_insua]

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