Well, I Finally Went And Did It

[bigboab]

Originally posted by manker@16 August 2004 - 12:42
I do hope you're not confusing me with Jonno

I did not thinkl it was possible to confuse Jonno. Nevermind confuse him with someone else.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by manker+16 August 2004 - 08:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (manker @ 16 August 2004 - 08:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by Busyman@16 August 2004 - 13:16

Originally posted by cpt_azad@16 August 2004 - 03:29

Originally posted by Busyman@15 August 2004 - 23:04

Originally posted by muchspl2@16 August 2004 - 02:52
should keep it and use it only when you really can use it, keep training and then take it

..........and what the fuck for?................

um, lets see, get big as fuck. if u don&#39;t see that as a plausible reason, then by all means stop posting here , i&#39;ll just continue on wit my weight training, screw roids. well, maybe thats a litte too harsh, perhaps when im older (not bloody likely) B)

<!--QuoteBegin-manker

@16 August 2004 - 03:35
To take steroids in an attempt to acheive this by-product of looking good can mean only two things:

1) That you&#39;re a competitive bodybuilder and the pressure to succeed is immense.

2) That you&#39;re insecure in some way.

There really is no other explanation.

Every guy I&#39;ve ever met that takes steroids has been a complete self obsessed arsehole, bar none. Perhaps it&#39;s because the steroids make them that way or perhaps it&#39;s innate, I suspect every non-steroid user will tell you the same.

Taking steroids does not promote endearing charactor traits.

How old are you anyway....seeing from your posts you are not 12 years old as previously stated?

I can&#39;t remember posting that I was 12&#33; Must have been one of the very rare occasions where I can manage to work the PC after a night in town.

I&#39;m in my twenties, though not as old as Jonno [/b][/quote]
Sorry not you manker I meant confused boy cpt azad.

[JONNO_CELEBS]

Originally posted by SensualBarfing@16 August 2004 - 12:35

Plain facts on MDMA and other drugs.

Oh ffs thats such crap, if you even the numbers out it&#39;s a different storie, the ratio of smokers to E takers is something like 200-1

Besides, I don&#39;t care what anyone says, it&#39;s a man made drug, I don&#39;t agree with man made drugs. Plain and simple

And before you say it, yes I&#39;ve done coke, speed, acid etc, does&#39;nt mean I agree with it and I would never ever tell anyone to try it, same as smoking, I wish I had never started and I would do everything I can to stop someone from starting, end of the day this is my body, that is yours, a question was asked and I stated fact.

Any mind/body enhancing man made chemical drug is dangerous, no one can deny that.

Jonno B)

[Yogi]

Originally posted by bigboab@16 August 2004 - 14:39
@Manker. You may not realise that where Yogi comes from a lot of drugs are legal. Therefore, I should imagine, that state control will prevent the &#39;dirty stuff&#39;.
I hope that is the case.

The funny thing is that most drugs are still officially illegal in holland.

Even funnier: They just forbid dried mushrooms. So now we buy &#39;m fresh......

[Cheese]

Originally posted by JONNO_CELEBS+16 August 2004 - 13:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JONNO_CELEBS @ 16 August 2004 - 13:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SensualBarfing@16 August 2004 - 12:35

Plain facts on MDMA and other drugs.

Oh ffs thats such crap, if you even the numbers out it&#39;s a different storie, the ratio of smokers to E takers is something like 200-1

Besides, I don&#39;t care what anyone says, it&#39;s a man made drug, I don&#39;t agree with man made drugs. Plain and simple

And before you say it, yes I&#39;ve done coke, speed, acid etc, does&#39;nt mean I agree with it and I would never ever tell anyone to try it, same as smoking, I wish I had never started and I would do everything I can to stop someone from starting, end of the day this is my body, that is yours, a question was asked and I stated fact.

Any mind/body enhancing man made chemical drug is dangerous, no one can deny that.

Jonno B) [/b][/quote]
You should probably look closely at the graph title again.

And you tried to use anecdotal evidence to back your views...

[bigboab]

I totally agree Jonno.


Stastistics are the same as computers. You only get out off them what you put in.

[manker]

Originally posted by Busyman+16 August 2004 - 13:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman &#064; 16 August 2004 - 13:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by manker@16 August 2004 - 08:23
<!--QuoteBegin-Busyman

@15 August 2004 - 23:04
&nbsp; How old are you anyway....seeing from your posts you are not 12 years old as previously stated?

I can&#39;t remember posting that I was 12&#33; Must have been one of the very rare occasions where I can manage to work the PC after a night in town.

I&#39;m in my twenties, though not as old as Jonno

Sorry not you manker I meant confused boy cpt azad. [/b][/quote]
D&#39;oh

[Yogi]

Originally posted by JONNO_CELEBS+16 August 2004 - 14:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JONNO_CELEBS &#064; 16 August 2004 - 14:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SensualBarfing@16 August 2004 - 12:35

Plain facts on MDMA and other drugs.

Oh ffs thats such crap, if you even the numbers out it&#39;s a different storie, the ratio of smokers to E takers is something like 200-1

Besides, I don&#39;t care what anyone says, it&#39;s a man made drug, I don&#39;t agree with man made drugs. Plain and simple

And before you say it, yes I&#39;ve done coke, speed, acid etc, does&#39;nt mean I agree with it and I would never ever tell anyone to try it, same as smoking, I wish I had never started and I would do everything I can to stop someone from starting, end of the day this is my body, that is yours, a question was asked and I stated fact.

Any mind/body enhancing man made chemical drug is dangerous, no one can deny that.

Jonno B) [/b][/quote]
See this chart.


Note the numbers of people ending up in ER after using prescripted drugs.

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Note: These are US-statistics from 2001&#33;&#33;&#33;


Edit: I do not promote the use of any drug, be it artifical or natural.

I just want to make clear that most MDMA related deaths are due to other causes.

Mixing drugs, alcohol, taking too much, bqad pills, etc.

As long as drugs are illegal, hence controlled by criminals, there are only two ways:

don&#39;t take &#39;m or be very very carefull.

[JONNO_CELEBS]

Correct, I did read it wrong. Apologies

Sorry, I don&#39;t believe graphs, I could probably find one that contradicts that

I really don&#39;t see why.......how anyone can say a chemical drug is safe, dunno maybe I&#39;m a square or something, or maybe I&#39;ve seen too many people sick or dead because of it, and I never condoned smoking or drinking, I simply answered the question

Just because more people die of smoking that means E&#39;s are safe?

Jonno B)

[Gemby!]

Originally posted by JONNO_CELEBS@16 August 2004 - 13:02
Correct, I did read it wrong. Apologies

Sorry, I don&#39;t believe graphs, I could probably find one that contradicts that

I really don&#39;t see why.......how anyone can say a chemical drug is safe, dunno maybe I&#39;m a square or something, or maybe I&#39;ve seen too many people sick or dead because of it, and I never condoned smoking or drinking, I simply answered the question

Just because more people die of smoking that means E&#39;s are safe?

Jonno B)

a larger amount of people smoke and drink then take e&#39;s so thats another reason the graph isnt really that good

if you done the percentage of people who died out of those who take the drug you might get a completely different graph