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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthie
    Propaganda....don't believe it, don't push it on others. I don't blindly follow other people, and I question everything. then, I research it for myself, as I believe in my responsibility to educate myself.
    You tell me...what was kerry doing there? If you've followed any of my posts, you would know I am not thrilled with Kerry either, and think he also exhibits some undesirable qualities.
    Curious...what is your age?
    You sound like me.
    I don't see the problem in either candidate speaking at a church. It is a voting demographic.
    Kerry is a stuffed shirt but at least he is intelligent.

    Manny is 19, Hank btw is 22. I needn't say anything more.
    Quote Originally Posted by spinningfreemanny
    You disagree with feeding and sheltering homeless people?
    Republican spin. No one's impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    You sound like me.
    I don't see the problem in either candidate speaking at a church. It is a voting demographic.
    Kerry is a stuffed shirt but at least he is intelligent.

    Manny is 19, Hank btw is 22. I needn't say anything more.
    Republican spin. No one's impressed.
    LOL. Enough said. Those damned young republicans and their spin. ROFL
    Don't read what isn't there.

    anywhichway

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    do you ever listen to yourself...what twisted logic came to bring you to that conclusion?
    i disagree with religious groups in civil politics.
    i disagree with the church being tax exempt.
    Churches are tax exempt because they are non profit...

    They are subsidized because they perform social necessities, thats it. in dissagreeing in subsidizing such a thing you can assume that you dissagree with that thing..

    come on vid, you've known me long enough to know that I don't actually believe that you don't agree with homeless shelters (unless you see that as "civil politics")...It's a sarcastic way of making you reexplain your arguement.

    I see taxing churches as an easy way to suppress religious freedom in the U.S., thats just me...but I think most politicians come to this conclusion, which is why this is a non-issue, so I'm not going to vehemently oppose such nuttiness that has become the norm of the left this past year...

    To me, it seems that my age is taken as a means to unjustify my ideas, instead of confronting them... Can't it be said that as a 19 year old I have some perspectives that you are unable to achieve also?
    Hey, you guys should be excited; how many conservative college sophmores who know their stuff do you meet?
    Do you know everything? do you know 3% of everything? Could it be that what you don't believe in is in the other 97%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinningfreemanny
    Churches are tax exempt because they are non profit...

    They are subsidized because they perform social necessities, thats it. in dissagreeing in subsidizing such a thing you can assume that you dissagree with that thing..

    come on vid, you've known me long enough to know that I don't actually believe that you don't agree with homeless shelters (unless you see that as "civil politics")...It's a sarcastic way of making you reexplain your arguement.

    I see taxing churches as an easy way to suppress religious freedom in the U.S., thats just me...but I think most politicians come to this conclusion, which is why this is a non-issue, so I'm not going to vehemently oppose such nuttiness that has become the norm of the left this past year...

    To me, it seems that my age is taken as a means to unjustify my ideas, instead of confronting them... Can't it be said that as a 19 year old I have some perspectives that you are unable to achieve also?
    Hey, you guys should be excited; how many conservative college sophmores who know their stuff do you meet?
    I make no assumptions due to you being a teen *cough*. When I talk to a college sophomore that knows their stuff I'll let know.

    The Church Of Scientology is not non-profit. Our government just caved in. Many church's are fake (probably most).

    All non-profit organizations should have oversight.
    If they are non-profit and no one is skimming then there's nothing to worry about.
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    I make money to raise my family...i am non profit...i am taxed

    Our house is to live in...it's non profit...that's taxed

    Our cars are to get us to where we need to be...non profit...taxed

    I make purchases of essential items... taxed

    The church doesn't just raise money to "feed the homeless"

    Please explain how taxing the church is "suppressing religious freedom in the U.S".... I am taxed...am i being suppressed?

    Now to help you understand i must point out i am talking about "the church". I am not talking about belief in God.
    To me, it seems that my age is taken as a means to unjustify my ideas, instead of confronting them... Can't it be said that as a 19 year old I have some perspectives that you are unable to achieve also?
    Hey, you guys should be excited; how many conservative college sophmores who know their stuff do you meet?
    I know this wasn't directed at me...i don't take your age as an excuse to poo poo your views....however sometimes we discuss subjects upon which you have no personal experience... you had to look up the cost of health insurance for example as you haven't had to take care of yourself yet.
    theory is very different from reality

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    I make money to raise my family...i am non profit...i am taxed

    Our house is to live in...it's non profit...that's taxed

    Our cars are to get us to where we need to be...non profit...taxed

    I make purchases of essential items... taxed

    The church doesn't just raise money to "feed the homeless"

    Please explain how taxing the church is "suppressing religious freedom in the U.S".... I am taxed...am i being suppressed?

    Now to help you understand i must point out i am talking about "the church". I am not talking about belief in God.

    I know this wasn't directed at me...i don't take your age as an excuse to poo poo your views....however sometimes we discuss subjects upon which you have no personal experience... you had to look up the cost of health insurance for example as you haven't had to take care of yourself yet.
    theory is very different from reality
    Your house is not non-profit.

    Your car is only taxed depending on where you live. Virginia springs to mind. They call it personal property tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Your house is not non-profit.

    Your car is only taxed depending on where you live. Virginia springs to mind. They call it personal property tax.
    It's non profit in the fact that it's an essential item to live in...if i sell it for more than i bought it for then it is profit...as an abode it is not

    But to your points... what is good to tax me for is good to tax the church for. The church owns land, buildings etc. The church runs tv and radio stations to put out their message. The church lobbies politicians.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    It's non profit in the fact that it's an essential item to live in...if i sell it for more than i bought it for then it is profit...as an abode it is not

    But to your points... what is good to tax me for is good to tax the church for. The church owns land, buildings etc. The church runs tv and radio stations to put out their message. The church lobbies politicians.
    Okay I'll bite. Forget about the fact you live in the home but your home appreciates in value as does stock.

    I agree about taxing church's in that people make money from it.
    Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Okay I'll bite. Forget about the fact you live in the home but your home appreciates in value as does stock.

    I agree about taxing church's in that people make money from it.
    Actually this is another state by state example..


    so why don't we get rebates when the housing market goes down? A home is only worth what someone will pay for it.

    My house will appreciate but not all houses do, a lot depends on the standard of construction and condition of the house...also the location...in many areas to demolish and reconstruct is the only economic option.
    Last edited by vidcc; 10-12-2004 at 06:36 PM.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    But to your points... what is good to tax me for is good to tax the church for. The church owns land, buildings etc....

    Then in order to achieve the equivalence you crave, I propose the government cease taxing you.

    Don't let your secularism make nonsense of your posting, vid.
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