So Israeli policy works?

[Rat Faced]

Every Arab country, and the Palestinians, have all said they will recognise Israel if returned to its orginal borders.

How many invasions have been done in the name of "Defence"... its a crap argument when Russia and China used it, and its a crap argument now.

[j2k4]

Every Arab country, and the Palestinians, have all said they will recognise Israel if returned to its orginal borders.

How many invasions have been done in the name of "Defence"... its a crap argument when Russia and China used it, and its a crap argument now.

The "crap" part must be why Arafat walked away from the Oslo accords, huh?

[Rat Faced]

Or why Sharron ripped up Camp David?

[bigboab]

Or why Sharron ripped up Camp David?

Is there not another way you could phrase that RF?

[Biggles]

Is there not another way you could phrase that RF?

Agreed!

Mind full of horrible images...must delete....

[hobbes]

I would imagine that indoctrinating hatred in school children might be a policy to look into.

Or perhaps the policy of recruiting and warping young minds to execute your fanatical goals. Preying upon their adolescent desire to be accepted and appreciated. You don't pull kids off the honor roll for these jobs, you recruit the losers and promise to make them heros.

Considering the situation, the house is of little to no concern. How could one focus on the destruction of a building, when we are dealing with people who have killed her son for their bent cause and we are dealing with the families who were hurt by the suicide bomber.

I noticed that the women was allowed to leave her home before it was bulldozed and that she was not shot, that is certainly considerate. And as a bonus, the people who killed her boy are going to build her a new one.

If the woman had honestly objected to what this group was doing to her son, she might have tipped off the Israeli military. Or better yet, her Palestinian authority ( but unfortunately they actually support the suicide bombers, they just move their lips in empty protest against them). A peace loving person understands that peace will never be brought by suicide bombers.

Like in Afghanistan, if you harbour those who execute 9/11, you are going to pay. That policy is no different than that used by Israel. It encourages people to rat out their neighbors, like a neighborhood watch program.

In Iraq, the greatest weapon we could have to providing peace is if the local citizens were to tip off coalition troops to the insurgents operating in their area. But the reality is that they turn a blind eye, in quiet support. These terrorists can only hide as long as the local populations support their cause. If there were a gang of people in my neighborhood who were putting the lives of everyone at risk, I am sure the members of my community would take it upon themselves to band together and weed them out, quite actively. Unless, of course, I was a quiet supporter. This is what causes so many civilian deaths, as the insurgents are nestled among them.

[Rat Faced]

Its the Israeli policy that causes the "Quiet Support".

That support has been growing since the Camp David peace plan that was being implemented was unilaterally torn up and reversed.

Its been growing faster and faster due to Israeli policy in the area since then.

Just as anti-US feelings in the Islamic World have been growing since it was allowed, and that feeling growing quicker by the day due to more recent events.

[Biggles]

Hobbes

What you say is quite true. However, one must also ask why they quietly support them. If those concerns are met and these people then hold something worth keeping there would be no support for the lunatics and fanatics.

In particular, the Palestinians were one of the most tolerant peoples in the ME prior to the loss of their land. Arafat for all his faults is no Muslim radical. His wife is a Palestinian Christian of which there was at one time a considerable number and so, for that matter, are a number of his Cabinet.

I have heard that AQ are hoping to exploit the demise (political or actual) of Arafat and push for a more radical Palestinian Authority based on Islamic principles. It was once said that Arafat never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity - no one can accuse Osama of this. Hopefully the Palestinians will avoid this and if the Israelis are wise they will do all they can to make the life of any moderate Palestinian Authority as easy as possible.

[hobbes]

Its the Israeli policy that causes the "Quiet Support".

That support has been growing since the Camp David peace plan that was being implemented was unilaterally torn up and reversed.

Its been growing faster and faster due to Israeli policy in the area since then.

Just as anti-US feelings in the Islamic World have been growing since it was allowed, and that feeling growing quicker by the day due to more recent events.

So, essentially the bulldozer issue, is not an issue at all.

[Biggles]

I would say it rather depends on

1) if it is your house or not

2) if you want to really piss people off and push them into the arms of even nuttier nutters.

If neither of these matter then it is not an issue.