Are you Glad Bush won?

**BigBank_Hank** · 11-04-2004, 02:46 AM

B if you haven’t figured out where I stand on things by now then you never will.

I’m not going to fight with you over this.

All we’ve been doing for the past 6 or 9 months is going at each other and its time for a break. Truce?

**j2k4** · 11-04-2004, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by atiVidia

BB_H, lets all call you a f_cking d_uche

By golly, Hank, I think this fellow has denigrated you with a not-so-subtle French reference.

Utterly crass....

**bujub22** · 11-04-2004, 02:48 AM

@scroff that is so truehttp://www.anywhichway.net/

**vidcc** · 11-04-2004, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by j2k4

The American people have spoken, loudly and plainly, and it is indisputable that most people who chose to vote (and by default must likewise be considered to be more engaged than those who did not, and therefore also more politically astute, which in turn indicates the majority who voted hold the prevailing attitudes of the country at large) are not of a liberal persuasion.

It is most definitely true that, if those currently apathetic to the voting process were similarly engaged as to the relevant issues, the majority would hold up throughout.

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well the % of people that voted wasn't 100%...and by the standards set to judge kerry on his track record no vote means they oppose...besides how would you know what a non voter thinks...could just be apathy could be disgust at the choices given.

however bush got only 51%...a narrow majority.... hardly an endorsement from all americans....and don't try to tell me you wouldn't be saying the same if kerry won by the same amount.

as to not being of liberal persuasion...how come clinton won 2 terms. If what you say is true do you state that a democrat will never again be president?
as to the gay issue it's just another act of intollerance based on this fictional person called god and it's shameful..... the more intollerance i see because of religion the stronger my athiest convictions become....
If Bush was an athiest and just ran on his policies he wouldn't have been elected...

**ruthie** · 11-04-2004, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by vidcc

well the % of people that voted wasn't 100%...and by the standards set to judge kerry on his track record no vote means they oppose...besides how would you know what a non voter thinks...could just be apathy could be disgust at the choices given.

however bush got only 51%...a narrow majority.... hardly an endorsement from all americans....and don't try to tell me you wouldn't be saying the same if kerry won by the same amount.

as to not being of liberal persuasion...how come clinton won 2 terms. If what you say is true do you state that a democrat will never again be president?
as to the gay issue it's just another act of intollerance based on this fictional person called god and it's shameful..... the more intollerance i see because of religion the stronger my athiest convictions become....
If Bush was an athiest and just ran on his policies he wouldn't have been elected...

I agree with you, vidcc..the intolerance of the right is simply amazing.
Also, 51% hardly makes for a mandate...that's the work of a vivid imagination.

**j2k4** · 11-04-2004, 03:42 AM

Please find my reply in blue:

Originally Posted by vidcc

well the % of people that voted wasn't 100%...and by the standards set to judge kerry on his track record no vote means they oppose...besides how would you know what a non voter thinks...could just be apathy could be disgust at the choices given.

Put it however you like, vid-if it were possible to make non-voters vote, they would vote a statistical tie, which would not change the outcome.

It's really just that simple.

however bush got only 51%...a narrow majority.... hardly an endorsement from all americans....and don't try to tell me you wouldn't be saying the same if kerry won by the same amount.

I'll do better than try, vid, I'll state it flatly:

Had the result been reversed, you'd have heard no carping from me; I live in the real world, where sympathy of the type you seek can be found in the dictionary, right between shit and syphilis.

as to not being of liberal persuasion...how come clinton won 2 terms. If what you say is true do you state that a democrat will never again be president?

I don't see a liberal of the ilk we've seen lately ever getting elected, vid.

I did not say no Democrat would win.

Show me the right Democrat, and I'll vote for him.

BTW-Hillary is toast, as is Edwards.

For good.

as to the gay issue it's just another act of intollerance based on this fictional person called god and it's shameful..... the more intollerance i see because of religion the stronger my athiest convictions become....

Just as I said-you make the mistake of attributing what has happened to your misperception of a hatred of gays; you can't even see how blind you are.

When I tell you it has nothing to do with any religious beliefs I might hold, you can take my word for it; you really don't have a choice, anyway.

If Bush was an athiest and just ran on his policies he wouldn't have been elected...

Quite right-that would have made him just like Kerry, you see?

**3RA1N1AC** · 11-04-2004, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by j2k4

the simple truth is that they wish to preserve marriage as it has existed until now.

what? homosexual marriage is a threat to heterosexual marriage? or to heterosexuals' monopoly on marriages-of-convenience, perhaps? if preserving marriage is a concern, though, i'd suggest pickling it.

**scroff** · 11-04-2004, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by 3RA1N1AC

what? homosexual marriage is a threat to heterosexual marriage? or to heterosexuals' monopoly on marriages-of-convenience, perhaps? if preserving marriage is a concern, though, i'd suggest pickling it.

Heterosexual marriage is a threat to heterosexual marriage, Britney Spears is a threat to heterosexual marriage, Fox is a threat to heterosexual marriage (Anybody wanna marry a millionaire... or a midget?)

Two people enough in love to risk public scorn and ridicule to get married aren't a threat.