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Thread: The Election- An American Perspective

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    Did you hear that Bush won?

    Yeah, I voted Kerry but, I live in Texas

    How do you think the Lakers will do without Shaq this year?

    Good question.




    Really, the election was just a sad joke between bad monkey and unknown monkey. This is why I think incumbant monkey got to stay.


    Issues:


    Serivce to country
    Bush: Draft dodger- old news
    Kerry: War crimes, vague accusations
    Winner: Bush, as he tarnished Kerry's clear cut trump card
    Real Issue?: No, politics

    Iraq
    Bush: fecked up
    Kerry:supported President then flip flopped. Has no real plan to make any difference
    Winner: Bush
    Real Issue?: Yes, but no one has a good solution

    Gay Marraiges
    Bush- strongly against
    Kerry-little whish washy
    Winner: Bush -huge victory with religious right
    Real Issue?: Absolutely not, politics


    Health Care
    Bush- what vaccine
    Kerry- pass
    Winner- everyone loses
    Real Issue?: Huge Issue, this is what everyone is concerned about from young healthy adults to retired folks. Kerry really needed to jump on this to get an edge. If you foreigners want to know what we talk about, this is the issue, it visits us monthly in huge amounts.

    Dependence on foreign oil
    Bush-what do you think?
    Kerry- John what is the plan?
    Winner- Big oil- owning the government since OPEC came to be.
    Real Issue: The biggest to me. Tells me that both sides are in to their necks in their big business schemes. Whatever happened to the 100 mpg cars?

    Add your own "real issues" not covered.

    It was just another episode of weebles, wobbling. Bush may go one way, Kerry another. In the end, no huge difference.

    To me this explain voter apathy. Certain things could be better, as in any country, but most people are doing fine. The people up for the top job are both knobs. What differnce does it make?

    When the shit finally hits the fan, then you will see people turn out in huge numbers.
    Last edited by hobbes; 11-05-2004 at 12:17 AM.
    Aren't we in the trust tree, thingey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
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    Aren't we in the trust tree, thingey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbes
    Glad it is not just me.

    Did MCMXXI have any impact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles
    Glad it is not just me.

    Did MCMXXI have any impact?

    MCVIV had tremendous impact. It made it so that this time around that the election didn't even have to go to court.

    This all right under everyone's noses.

    Tell me....what type of oversight does e-voting have?

    MCVIV my man, MCVIV.
    Last edited by Busyman; 11-05-2004 at 04:37 PM.
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    taking a queue from busyman, re: the polling machinery... THEY DIDN'T CHECK MY IDENTIFICATION when i went to vote. i was pretty disappointed about that. i wasn't asked to provide any personal identification at all, besides stating my name and address.

    that's a bit of a nitpick, i know, and there is such a thing as a fake i.d. card... but still it would put me slightly more at ease if they'd make a NOMINAL effort to verify that voters are who they claim to be.

    edit: OH. one fairly personal issue that influenced my vote... i voted for a democrat that i know absolutely nothing about, for house of reps, purely as a vote against the republican candidate who must have called my house a DOZEN TIMES in the past several months via some automated dialing machine to leave prerecorded messages blathering on about all kinds of campaign/rally stuff. the guy was basically a telephone-spammer. i really felt compelled to cast a vote against that kind of behavior. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    MCVIV had tremendous impact. It made it so that this time around that the election didn't even have to go to court.

    This all right under everyone's noses.

    Tell me....what type of oversight does e-voting have?

    MCVIV my man, MCVIV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    MCVIV had tremendous impact. It made it so that this time around that the election didn't even have to go to court.

    This all right under everyone's noses.

    Tell me....what type of oversight does e-voting have?

    MCVIV my man, MCVIV.
    Stories are starting to come out about this issue. Check out Blackboxvoting.org if you haven't already.
    Last edited by scroff; 11-06-2004 at 08:39 AM.
    Ancient Bush family proverb; Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day... drown him in the lake and he'll never be hungry again.

    Any Which Way.... because there's more to it than Fox tells you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scroff
    Stories are starting to come out about this issue. Check out Blackboxvoting.org if you haven't already.
    I will check that site out but let me be clear.

    I still keep in mind that some will circulate false stories as well.

    Still, I would like to know what oversight e-voting has?

    Someone mentioned marshalls but do they have the wherewithal and knowledge to spot something wrong with a program?

    What's interesting about this is that some of our Republican friends need to pay attention to this as well.

    What happens when you are not considered to be part of the "winning team".

    Picture this:

    Republican House, Senate, President, and Supreme Court........

    I am going to start writing a screenplay about this some of these events. I would have to fit in with time I'm spending with my others. (one's finally finished)

    It will make an amazing movie. The problem is I've seen elements of this in previous movies.

    Prophecy is motherfucker.
    Last edited by Busyman; 11-06-2004 at 02:03 PM.
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