Happy Pollution Day :01:

[Biggles]

Ok you're all right

I apologise

Selling bombs to anyone off the street is a good idea, shame our fire engine has just gone out tho, someone set light to the common, many animals and plant life will die, but it's worth it for a fun night

And I did'nt make that banner, nor did I put it up

Besides, it's a forum for many people, I'm just 1 person with an opinion, if it's wrong to have views on something then cast me down

Jonno

Oh! I thought you were complaining about the bonfires.

I totally agree - it is like bloody Beirut out there and has been for the last couple of weeks.

But who says punishment doesn't work.

[Jon L. Obscene]

I am Bigs, the fireworks thing was kinda side topic

Nah I just think the bonfire thing is ott, the air tonight will be horrendous, anyone with Asthma will recognise that statement, and somewhere earlier Dan said no one chucks tires on, sorry mate, yes they do, you should have a look round all the private ones, this is a chance for everyone to burn their crap rather than take it to the dump

Jonno

[DanB]

But back to the original question put to you by Cheese over 6 hours ago why should the majority of people who are sensible and don't abuse the fireworks be punished for the small mindless minority?

[Biggles]

I am Bigs, the fireworks thing was kinda side topic

Nah I just think the bonfire thing is ott, the air tonight will be horrendous, anyone with Asthma will recognise that statement, and somewhere earlier Dan said no one chucks tires on, sorry mate, yes they do, you should have a look round all the private ones, this is a chance for everyone to burn their crap rather than take it to the dump

Jonno

Land fill or bonfire?

Neither are really clear winners in the environment stakes are they?

At least charcol is really good for the soil. (Not tyres though - smelly, nasty, evil)

[Cheese]

That is fact. Not an opinion.

Jonno

No, that's still an opinion.

Even if fireworks were banned for public sale they would make their way into this country.

Less people would have them, of course, but then those that were here may not be as safe as those that were previously allowed here.

Someone blows themselves up with an illegal firework because they could no longer buy safer legal ones?

Or perhaps someone would make their own firework and kill themselves.

Or, more probably, they just injure themselves through stupidity from illegal fireworks.

So you see there is no way to prevent injuries at this time of year.

That's only my opinion. I wouldn't so silly as to say it was a fact.

[Lilmiss]

charcol

Wow!!!

Even Biggles makes spelling mistakes.
I'm impressed.

[Lilmiss]

Bonfire night is fantastic.
The big fire, the sparkly lights, the toffee apples.
It's all good and now part of tradition.



But it is all controlled.
Fair enough kids will go and devise things that will explode and make noises, but I'd say the majority of injuries are from bought fireworks, which are so easily aquired. Stricter age restrictions should be inforced, more policemen should be on the beat, and more information on the handling of such things should all happen. But it won't.

[Jon L. Obscene]

But back to the original question put to you by Cheese over 6 hours ago why should the majority of people who are sensible and don't abuse the fireworks be punished for the small mindless minority?

You could turn that round tho, why should you have at the expense of someone else's life?

@Cheese.......No, what I said was fact, not an opinion, that IS what happens.
As for the smuggling market, that's such a crap argument So now they have banned guns it makes the problem worse?

@Biggle....Yeah, see I think the thing is that a lot of you live in cities where stuff like this can't be hidden that well, out here in the sticks people will be burning anything that burns, litterally, piles of crap, paint tins, tyres, anything thats is hard to get rid of........Bodies?

Jonno

[DanB]

@Cheese.......No, what I said was fact, not an opinion, that IS what happens.
As for the smuggling market, that's such a crap argument So now they have banned guns it makes the problem worse?

Well banning guns doesn't have any effect on the blackmarket ones does it?

I mean drugs are illegal but you don't have much trouble getting hold of them do you?

[Cheese]

You could turn that round tho, why should you have at the expense of someone else's life?

@Cheese.......No, what I said was fact, not an opinion, that IS what happens.
As for the smuggling market, that's such a crap argument So now they have banned guns it makes the problem worse?

@Biggle....Yeah, see I think the thing is that a lot of you live in cities where stuff like this can't be hidden that well, out here in the sticks people will be burning anything that burns, litterally, piles of crap, paint tins, tyres, anything thats is hard to get rid of........Bodies?

Jonno

You said that banning fireworks would be a prevention. I pointed out that it wasn't. People would still get hold of fireworks people would still get injured. I fail to see how that is a crap argument, I never said that the problem would get worse either. And what the hell have guns got to do with it?

So banning fireworks would, perhaps, be a way to reduce things but there is no such thing as prevention in this matter. You can flip-flop all you want but you know I'm right.

Now that's a fact.