schools allowing creationism

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The British are guilty of imperialism throughout history. We still do it, but not anywhere near as bad. FFS the overt evil in India, Ireland and elsewhere in the world speak volumes, never mind what we did behind the scenes.

Please accept my assurance that I have never tortured anyone in the name of God or anything else. If you chose to judge me by what happened years ago, please feel free to do so. However those were the evils of man, not of God.

I never said anything against you mate

You know fine well, that im griping about the fact the shit rises to the top everywhere, whether its Politics, Religion or Corporations...

The mass's are usually only guilty of being manipulated... its unfortunate if they are manipulated into breaking their own Religious Beliefs maybe.


The Doctrines of the Religions themselves, I cannot really fault.. any of them. Just the way they are implemented

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There is an enormous difference between Religious Education being taught in schools and a school teaching that one religion is right.

So we agree...

Just arguing samantics

[hobbes]

Unitarian church

A unitarian church believes in a "God concept", you are free to customize him to your liking.

The key is that God exists and the members draw strength and friendship through this bond.

There is no quibbling interpretation of books or arguing about which prophet is the right one. Just a belief that God exists and that we should all try and get along.

Helped my uncle as he died slowly of ALS last year. He faced his demise with hope not fear.

That is why we created God, to combat fear.

Life is hard, life is evanescent, society NEEDS a God and will create one to suit it's need.

If everyone were Unitarian, then they could have all the benefits of a God safety net, without quibbling the details, which has caused such great strife throughout the world.

I don't believe in God, and it irks me that those who do are making this world such a dangerous place. Such irony when we consider that God is about love and forgiveness.

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Perhaps it is your inate tolerance of the position of oers which makes your posting appear to lean towards agnosticism, rather than the dogmatic view of the atheist.

I thought that was what i was saying.

I am an athiest but i keep those views to myself out of respect for others..i wish they would do the same in return. i live in a very religious community and i am not left alone. If i ever do get through to them that they won't change my mind they say they will "pray for my soul"

One of my values... I am a great believer in free speech and i refuse to be a hypocrit to my values and as being an athiestdoesn't require an act of faith i don't have a conflict between not believing and accepting those that do

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Nearly, I think there is also a place for religion specific schools. So long as they are declared as such.Please don't assume that I send my children to one, coz that's not the case. However I have no problem with them, if that's what the parents want.

Also if it's the only convenient school then parents who do not wish this education should be able to opt their children out. Use the time as study or whatever, but let the kids do the comparative religion thing just not the specific element.

I quite agree.

I have no problem with Catholic Schools, CofE Supported Schools, nor any others.

The difference is that the Church's are providing funds for the extra Religious Element, and the parents are aware of the schools nature before sending them there.

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I thought that was what i was saying.

I am an athiest but i keep those views to myself out of respect for others..i wish they would do the same in return. i live in a very religious community and i am not left alone. If i ever do get through to them that they won't change my mind they say they will "pray for my soul"

One of my values... I am a great believer in free speech and i refuse to be a hypocrit to my values and as being an athiestdoesn't require an act of faith i don't have a conflict between not believing and accepting those that do

I think that to aver that God cannot exist requires as much faith a stating that God does exist.

An Atheist denies the possiblity.

An Agnostic doesn't believe in God, but he admits that he is a possibilty.

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It is fortunate then that the right thinking atheists and agnostics are, to a man, pacifists.

Conflict will always arise. But conflicts that arise over some drivel written in a book are pointless. Particularly pointless considering that God is love and one should turn the other cheek.

The world would be a far better place without organized religions that arbitrarily define an unknowable creator.

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It is fortunate then that the right thinking atheists and agnostics are, to a man, pacifists.

Firstly if it would make you happier...god doesn't exist..... i believe anyone that thinks he does is wrong.

as to the quote above, would i be correct in thinking sarcasm is intended?

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Then let us proceed to war over who owns some dirt, or oil or gold or whatever else capitalism decides is worth sacrificing it's citizens over.

At least those things are real. At least we can approach these conflicts with logic, like the creation of the UN (The UN is a great concept to ensure global stability, it just don't work as it stands now).

I would be hard pressed to explain killing someone because he believed in unicorns and I believe in omnipotent bunnies.

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Firstly, God does exist. Anyone who does not accept that is misguided. However like you I feel no need to force that down their throat.

and even though it's you that is misguided i have no problem with you having an imaginary friend