Gay Marriage

[vidcc]

actually after busy's google suggestion, I did..... seems that all the "pro birth" opinions are from academics, doctors, and psychologists.

all the "it's choice" opinions are from religious sites... mostly using the bible to prove their theories.

For busy I will state that this is not an absolute, it is general before he comes up with one "difference"

No doubt all the "scientific" research is bulshit...but i shall go with that

[Busyman]

actually after busy's google suggestion, I did..... seems that all the "pro birth" opinions are from academics, doctors, and psychologists.

all the "it's choice" opinions are from religious sites... mostly using the bible to prove their theories.

For busy I will state that this is not an absolute, it is general before he comes up with one "difference"

No doubt all the "scientific" research is bulshit...but i shall go with that

I used to think as you do years ago but at that time never considered it an issue.

I read the Levay study and said oh, hmmm there's seems to be proof but then again what was his scientific method?

It was later debunked and then I thought about it....

What's the difference between me liking a women with a phat ass and a man liking women with a petite one .

Then I realized I couldn't explain exactly why I like phat ass. I just do, yet I don't like petite ass but they are both women. I walk right by a petite lady without a second thought.
Then to explore further what if I like it because of a gene but hell, is there a "I like phat ass" gene. No.

Then I realized both sides are trying to explain paticular desire.
One put's it in lights saying..but,butbut it's sexuality. That's it case closed....

Both main sides are wrong.

One says you are born that way.

Were you born to like men or women...and if that's the case..what else? Bisexuals are left out of many "studies". Why?

The other says it's a choice.

How do you choose your feelings?

Men have risked their lives to be with that forbidden women.
Could they have chosen not to feel for them? Risk their lives yes. Feel no.
Do I love my mother because I'm her son? No.

I can't remember exactly what they say but I never thought that the APA's stance disagreed with mine. I remember reading a journal or something when I was there and it seemed rather logical.

[dwightfry]

and here we go again. I can't believe that people won't decide to be gay. I can't believe that all decide to be gay. The point of this topic was marriage.

you said...

I personally don't want to see gay marriage see the light of day.

What you are saying is that you don't want them to have the right because you think it's icky. So, admit that you have no right to try to stop them. If you were argueing religion, then all I could say is that religion has no place in government. If you argued aids, or some other type of harm, I could have more arguments, but you are not. You simply don't like it. So, right here, right now, I want you to admit that you have no legal, ethical ground to protest their right. Nothing else has been proven one way or another, so there is no point of argueing it.

[Jon L. Obscene]

From what I understand, BM does'nt want to see gay Marriage because he fears the "Effects" it will have on children and seems to have it in his mind that gay marriage will incure a sharpe rise in the gay population because kids will see it's allowed and instantly want to be gay.
Eventually turning the entire human race gay which will stop procreation and the human race will be extinct.

All because they let a couple of lads/lass's get married

Shees, last gay wedding I went to was great More friendly and much more fun than a normal wedding

AND there were kids there and I did'nt here any of them say they now wanna be gay

And some bird grabed my nuts

Jonno

[dwightfry]

Eventually turning the entire human race gay which will stop procreation and the human race will be extinct.

Has he even said that? It seems all he has said is that they choose to be gay and I don't like it.

[Busyman]

Stay with me here...

and here we go again. I can't believe that people won't decide to be gay. I can't believe that all decide to be gay.

I don't think anyone decides to feel gay. I think they decide to act on those feelings.

The point of this topic was marriage.

Agreed. Way back near the beginning I recall something about a paper on gay marriage.....

you said...

I personally don't want to see gay marriage see the light of day.

What you are saying is that you don't want them to have the right because you think it's icky.

No, I think male-on-male sex is icky. As far as my reason, go back and read.

So, admit that you have no right to try to stop them.

Of course I do. Some of rights include referendums, protests, lobbying.....

If you were argueing religion, then all I could say is that religion has no place in government.

But I'm not.

If you argued aids, or some other type of harm, I could have more arguments, but you are not.

But I'm not, oh er...you said I'm not.

You simply don't like it.

Agreed, yow aura janeyus.

So, right here, right now, I want you to admit that you have no legal, ethical ground to protest their right.

No and of course I have the right.

Nothing else has been proven one way or another, so there is no point of argueing it.

Ok, go for it!!!

[Busyman]

Has he even said that? It seems all he has said is that they choose to be gay and I don't like it.

RIF. Pay attention, words are right in front of you. They don't skid off the page if you take awhile.

[dwightfry]

No, I think male-on-male sex is icky. As far as my reason, go back and read.

That's what I meant. Sorry if you misunderstood.

What shocks me is that you think that you are in the right when protesting something that has next to no effect on you, with the exception of being uncomfortable. I guess you do have the right though....it's just stupid, that's all. You be sure to have a good time with your referendums, protests, lobbying...etc.

C Ya, I'm done

[Busyman]

From what I understand, BM does'nt want to see gay Marriage because he fears the "Effects" it will have on children

Agreed but more like influence

and seems to have it in his mind that gay marriage will incure a sharpe rise in the gay population because kids will see it's allowed and instantly want to be gay.

Load of crap. You made it up

Eventually turning the entire human race gay which will stop procreation and the human race will be extinct.

More made up crap

All because they let a couple of lads/lass's get married

Shees, last gay wedding I went to was great More friendly and much more fun than a normal wedding

OHTHAT'S GREAT OH MAN JEEZ!! LOL!!111!1OMG

AND there were kids there and I did'nt here any of them say they now wanna be gay

And finally we come to ...more made up crap. Just kidding....but really I'm shocked.

And some bird grabed my nuts

Jonno

Water, chest, wal, Brazil, pea....wanna be more Pacific er...I mean Atlantic.

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Busy

Right at the begining of this (it was a diferent thread but same subject) my statement was "you can't prove people aren't born gay". I also made a point that we can't prove they are and that it's all opinion.
It's my opinion that people are born that way, i thought this without the "scientific research".
right away when i said there is no proof that people are not born gay you said well yes there is...just look at logic...well you still haven't given any proof.

I have not posted one googled report, because it's still just scientific opinion, not solid fact, although it's an educated opinion with far stronger evedence than the opposing theory.

Your opinion doesn't have any solid ground to stand on either....yet you happily call our thoughts "bullshit" as if you had the absolute undisbutable knowledge that all accadamia seems to be unable to grasp.

You have cherry picked and half quoted posts, you have misread then accused us of contradicting ourselves.

As i have said more than once...it's all just opinion, not one shred of actual proof.
case closed