Gay Marriage

[Arm]

also why do gays want to marry, it dont make sense.

Its not like marriage is the ultimate contract.

*It's because of legal reasons. The conservative assholes** cant stop gay people from being together but they can stop them from getting the same legal rights of a straight couple. Mostly a game of controlling peoples lives. They can claim to be protecting family values all they want but we all know they arent.

* entirely the opinion of Armus Aran and does not reflect the view of everyone
** "

[Everose]

*It's because of legal reasons. The conservative assholes** cant stop gay people from being together but they can stop them from getting the same legal rights of a straight couple. Mostly a game of controlling peoples lives. They can claim to be protecting family values all they want but we all know they arent.

* entirely the opinion of Armus Aran and does not reflect the view of everyone
** "

I can understand your views. I know just as many Republicans that are gay as I do Democrats. I know just as many Republicans that support gay marriage as Democrats. The far right conservatives I ignore, just as I do the far left as neither are very indicative of what America thinks. imho and many other Americans.

[dwightfry]

imagine if every one was gay, humans would be extinced.

nough said


also why do gays want to marry, it dont make sense.

Its not like marriage is the ultimate contract.

that's a whole lotta gay right there.

imagine if everyone was going through menopause...humans would be extincted.

nough said

imagine if everyone was on birth control...humans would be extincted.

nough said

[manker]

The point is moot.

As JP pointed out, even if everyone was gay there are other ways of procreating than sexually.

The human race would not become extinct

[lightshow]

Okay, off topic from how people become/are born gay, I have this question:

I'm supporting Gay Marriage. Thus not supporting them passing a law saying Gays can not marry.

In my essay I'm trying to work on my thesis and main points. So far I have this::

In the ever changing country that we call the United States of America, politics change with a drop of a hat. Today, the issue of gay marriage has been thrust into the spotlight. The question is whether or not marriage between two of the same sex people should be allowed. Marriage has both symbolic meaning and legal benefits for those involved. Symbolically, one interpretation is that it represents two heterosexual people being connected in a society and forming a family unit. Legally, the government provides numerous tax breaks and incentives for two heterosexual people to be involved in marriage. The history of marriage in the United States of America shows that limitations have always been enacted and the law has changed over time for the meaning of marriage. Today, it is being decided on whether or not to extend the definition of marriage to include homosexuals. [Need A Strong Thesis Here]

Throughout our history as a growing country, the laws about marriage have changed. In the early part of the nineteenth century, marriage was defined as legally sanctified contract of mutual support between a man and one or more women, all being non-African-American consenting adults. At that time, African Americans were not allowed to be married. They were not, at the time, looked upon as equals.

I want to get more points on why they should not pass the law. My first point is that marriage has continually been widened to include more and more people/races etc. I'm going to continue on to when they allowed inter-racial marriage.

From there I'm trying to think of some more points. What are some other good points to include.

I want my paper to be based on facutal information, and this is not a persuasive paper. I'm trying to write without using any fallicies/wrong statements.

[Jon L. Obscene]

Life finds a way

What a stupid arguement anyway, not everyone is gay so it's irrelavent

It's simple, gay straight, black, white, whatever walk of life you're in, unless you stick to the "Live, marry, have 2.4 kids get a mortgae, have a family car etc you will never be accepted in our society, people just wont allow it.

Trouble is, not everyone gets that chance, why would anyone want to stop 2 people exchanging vows and being legally joined by marriage, I still don't see any argument at all against it apart from prejudice coments and ideas.

Human Rights. Only apply's to those who follow the norm.

Jonno

[Busyman]

Life finds a way

What a stupid arguement anyway, not everyone is gay so it's irrelavent

It's rising in number.

It's simple, gay straight, black, white, whatever walk of life you're in, unless you stick to the "Live, marry, have 2.4 kids get a mortgae, have a family car etc you will never be accepted in our society, people just wont allow it.


Trouble is, not everyone gets that chance, why would anyone want to stop 2 people exchanging vows and being legally joined by marriage, I still don't see any argument at all against it apart from prejudice coments and ideas.

If I really believed that people were born gay I'd be okay with it. I don't, so my acceptance level doesn't go that far to say that I'm for gay marriage. From a pure logical and legal standpoint though I believe gay marriage can't be denied whether they were born that way or not. They love who they want to love.

Human Rights. Only apply's to those who follow the norm.

Jonno

sidenote:
Until folks find proof that gays are born that way then in my mind it is some made up shit since no one has a shred of even real life examples to say otherwise. Again since neither side has proof, I look to real examples that don't point to "well she was born that way."

Ever heard the saying "women are halfway gay already"?

Did you know women are more prone to homosexual behavior then men?

I think they born that way. It's more accepted in this man's world. Most pornographic material has man-on-woman and woman-on-woman action. I guess they were born that way.

Sounds to me someone turned them on to it and they liked it. (or at least enough to make money from it)

I think gay marriage would make homosexual behavior more mainstream. We will have a more versatile nation. Imagine a time when two women get divorced and one remarries to a man. Divorce court with two dudes. When Johnny says that's my two dads then squinches up their face. It's considered normal. When the birds and bees are explained it gets a little bit more lengthy in explanation.

Many psychiatrists say that children have had some homosexual feelings at some point in life. Most choose their path at that time for whatever reason. In our more accepting world it would be more likely for them to go along with those feelings and in essence choose that path.
Some will stick anything with a hole. It's that simple. Kinky yes. Born that way, no.

[hobbes]

The entire scientific community fully considers that gays are born that way, exceptions do occur.

Don't confuse sexual gratification with sexual orientation.

If you are aroused by a man, you are gay. If you are aroused by a woman you are straight.

People don't consider masturbation an indication that one is attracted to self (which would mean you are gay) just a means to an end.


Case closed.

As far as number rising.

Well so is the population on the Earth. Also, where do we get these numbers? Oh, right, people have to admit to it. We are probably now learning how many have always been gay, as they no longer fear for their lives by speaking out.

[Busyman]

The entire scientific community fully considers that gays are born that way.

Case closed.

I've also seen "the scientific community" prove that gays are born that way and have it later refuted. Rather easily also.

I also recall after this instance of proof, many jumping on the bandwagon.

It seems after the bandwagon broke those same folk are still trying to keep it going.

Are fellas in jail gay because they fuck men?

Oh I just saw you edit...Those fellas must be gratifying themselves in another guy but er...uh..weren't aroused.

[hobbes]

I've also seen "the scientific community" prove that gays are born that way and have it later refuted. Rather easily also.

I also recall after this instance of proof, many jumping on the bandwagon.

It seems after the bandwagon broke those same folk are still trying to keep it going.

Are fellas in jail gay because they fuck men?

Nope. Not gay at all.

Rape is about power, not sexuality.

Edit in prior post.