will the usa go into iran

[BigBank_Hank]

True...

The USA have enough to blow the entire planet apart 10 times over and are continuing to develop them.

Iran havent got 1 nuke..

The USA refuses to allow the relevant UN agency to inspect any of their facilities, Iran is open to inspection.

Quite a difference.

Its the USA's program that would be under suspicion in any non-biased atmosphere in these circumstances.

Yeah your probably right we shouldn’t develop any more nukes because why would the most powerful country in the world take any measures to protect itself. Hell I guess we should just disband the whole damn arm while we’re at it.

Like I said if you can’t see the difference between a nation that harbors terrorist and one the goes to great lengths to protect people around the world then you have a problem.

[Biggles]

Hank

You have a peculiarly rose tinted view of US foreign policy. Is this purely on current performance or is it back-dated at all?

The simple fact is that powers (good or bad) don't like new boys on the block. No one liked it when China, Israel, India and Pakistan went nuclear. We have learned to live with it. This is 1930s science, the genie will not stay in the bottle. North Korea almost certainly has gone nuclear and my view is that Iran is there also (if perhaps still to assemble the bits). We will have to learn to live with this also and ensure that the neceassry weights and measures are in place to effectively create a stalemate in the region. The Iranians will not unlearn the science they have acquired.

You are right though, the UN and the EU are the main players in the Iranian negotiations whereas the US is the main player in N. Korea. I do not see the US invading either unless there was a genuine threat of aggression. Such an action would be huge, messy and would result in a lot of deaths and the total disruption of the oil supply from that region if Iran were to be invaded. This would not make good business sense and whilst I have doubts about GW I do not believe he is anti-business.

[Strangelove]

@Busyman..

1/ USA is the only country EVER to use the Atom bomb.

2/ UK, France, India and Pakistan all admit they have Nukes and allow UN inspections. Why should anyone else if the biggest player wont do that?

@ Hank

The USA spends more on Defence than the next 5 largest spenders put together. Thats your business, you want to keep the Arms companies alive and let your people die because of a lack of basic Universal Health Care (unlike those countries that you have invaded such as Iraq and Grenada) then i have nothing against that.

However, to my mind both Grenada and Iraq showed more care for their own people than the USA does... and that includes the poltical disappearances and murders in the time of Hussain.

At least they could get Health Treatment when they were ill.

They had less malnutition before the USA invaded (nearly doubled since the invasion, really shows you care)

When i think of all the kids that die, just to keep the shareholders of American Arms Companies rich... well, it sickens me.

[Biggles]

Strangelove

Is it only five? I am sure I saw a report that said this had risen to the next 20 as most of Europe has cut Defence spending following the nasty outbreak of peace on the Russian front.

However, as you say, taxes can only go so far - it is a choice between schools and tanks (unless one introduces conscription for 5 years olds and have school tanks

[Strangelove]

Strangelove

Is it only five? I am sure I saw a report that said this had risen to the next 20 as most of Europe has cut Defence spending following the nasty outbreak of peace on the Russian front.

However, as you say, taxes can only go so far - it is a choice between schools and tanks (unless one introduces conscription for 5 years olds and have school tanks

You can understand it...

I mean, with their current policies, 1/3 of the world will be active enemies before long... and they need an excuse to keep the Defence Speanding that high.

This could well be the REASON for their foreign policy

[BigBank_Hank]

@ Hank
However, to my mind both Grenada and Iraq showed more care for their own people than the USA does... and that includes the poltical disappearances and murders in the time of Hussain.

I cannot believe that someone with a functioning brain could actually believe that. You sir live in the land of Oz.

[ruthie]

Yeah your probably right we shouldn’t develop any more nukes because why would the most powerful country in the world take any measures to protect itself. Hell I guess we should just disband the whole damn arm while we’re at it.

Like I said if you can’t see the difference between a nation that harbors terrorist and one the goes to great lengths to protect people around the world then you have a problem.

Um, Hank...we are harboring Bush..a terrorist. How about Kissinger..WAR CRIMES.

[Strangelove]

I cannot believe that someone with a functioning brain could actually believe that. You sir live in the land of Oz.

Im not a sir

And, if you believe any civilised country that doesnt have Universal Health Care gives a stuff about their citizens, then its YOU that are living n the land of Oz.

Hussain attacked his enemies only... so i assume that means ALL the poor are the enemy of the American Administration.

[Biggles]

Um, Hank...we are harboring Bush..a terrorist. How about Kissinger..WAR CRIMES.

Are the Chileans not looking to try Kissenger on War Crimes? However, like Pinochet, age will be the mitigating factor here. It would, as in the Milosovic case, take years to pursue through the courts even if they got him to court.

[cpt_azad]

Im not a sir

And, if you believe any civilised country that doesnt have Universal Health Care gives a stuff about their citizens, then its YOU that are living n the land of Oz.

Hussain attacked his enemies only... so i assume that means ALL the poor are the enemy of the American Administration.

bravo. although your statement is pretty weak, i'd have to agree on some very low level with you. honestly, saddam had more control in Iraq then your puppet gov't ever will, not control as in suppression, but freedom yes freedom. what is democracy? where people choose the gov't and have their say. well, call it dictatorship or not, i'd rather be under saddam's power than george's anyday. for cryin out loud, they had the basic necessities when mr. hussain was in power. oh well, no point in crying over spilt milk right? oh wait, 9/11 riiiiiite, that's how this whole Iraq thing started (w/ a little help from non-existant WMDs). for shame America, for shame. There is no hiding it, when the war was announced everyone in America was in on it, or agreeing with it, so you are all guilty, not just the Bush admin.