How Bout Dem Wizards!!! (NBA)

[RPerry]

They get the ball to their best free-shooter because they know that the defensive team are likely to try to cheat by making intentional fouls on the player with the ball.

If you deliberately break the rules, that's cheating.

If it were cheating, don't you think they would be thrown out of the game ?

[manker]

If it were cheating, don't you think they would be thrown out of the game ?

They do, but in the main they get penalised.


Edit: Sorry, you seem to have a weird concept of cheating. It doesn't have to result in expulsion from the game. Surely that much is obvious.

[Busyman]

They get the ball to their best free-shooter because they know that the defensive team are likely to try to cheat by making intentional fouls on the player with the ball.

If you deliberately break the rules, that's cheating.

Fouls are part of the rules. It is not cheating.

There is no distinction in most cases of real intention or not.

[spinningfreemanny]

the fouls at the end of games are of the players trying to strip the ball out of the owners hands. it is a "play on the ball" and is unintentional. a play on the body is intentional and is called a flagrant.

Really though, all anyone needs to do is to watch a pacers-pistons game and that should effectively determine whether basketball is a contact sport.

watch reggie evans throwing blows under the hoop...

heres a good article

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...wn/list/050517

[Busyman]

the fouls at the end of games are of the players trying to strip the ball out of the owners hands. it is a "play on the ball" and is unintentional. a play on the body is intentional and is called a flagrant.

Really though, all anyone needs to do is to watch a pacers-pistons game and that should effectively determine whether basketball is a contact sport.

watch reggie evans throwing blows under the hoop...

heres a good article

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...wn/list/050517

Good article, however, I do have to play devil's advocate.

Near the end of a game, player aren't necessarily trying to get the ball. They are giving a foul to stop the clock. Some players are just out right grabbed to give a foul. Now it is not flagrant. It's purpose is just to stop the clock.

There is also the instance of a player simply getting away from his defender and a foul being given to stop an easy bucket.
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The difference in this cheating aspect is that the offensive can earn his points at the foul line. It ain't called the "charity stripe" for nuthin'.

As i say, Wade killed the Wizards with his constant trips to the line coupled with the fact he made his free throws.

I doubt he'll say...."the Wizards cheated Waahhhhhhhhhhh"

[Busyman]

@manny and RP -

I hope you are watching the Pistons/Pacers game.

I'm watching the 3rd quarter and the Pistons are totally demolishing the Pacers. It's like a defensive exhibition.

Ben Wallace blocks a shot then
Rasheed Wallace blocks a shot then
Richard Hamilton gets a steal then
Chauncey Billups gets a steal....

Indiana didn't even score until 5:30 left in the quarter ffs. Which only had them at 40 points.

Detroit is up by 20.

edit: 2 more fucking steals....they are now up by 25 with 2:31 left. This is unbelievable. 65 to 40.

I wish the Wizards could be that disciplined (that and to change their name back to the Bullets).

Indiana is almost out of time-outs in the 3rd quarter.

[JPaul]

Deliberately breaking rules = cheating.

The opinion that cheating has become commonplace and part of the "strategy" changes naught.

Any fancy dan, emotive, condescending post suggesting that breaking the rules = part of the game does no more than diminish the game's worth.

Perhaps better to try to erradicate the cheating, than to convince others that breaking the rules is acceptable, nay laudable.

[Busyman]

Deliberately breaking rules = cheating.

The opinion that cheating has become commonplace and part of the "strategy" changes naught.

Any fancy dan, emotive, condescending post suggesting that breaking the rules = part of the game does no more than diminish the game's worth.

Perhaps better to try to erradicate the cheating, than to convince others that breaking the rules is acceptable, nay laudable.

Well it seems this "cheating" is penalized according to game rules.

2 fouls shots.

[manker]

Well it seems this "cheating" is penalized according to game rules.

2 fouls shots.

I didn't get it when you posted basically the same retort to my post earlier.

I see now that you're saying that it's not cheating because the offender gets penalised for it.




C'mon, you can do better than that.

[Busyman]

I didn't get it when you posted basically the same retort to my post earlier.

I see now that you're saying that it's not cheating because the offender gets penalised for it.




C'mon, you can do better than that.

Mmmmk

There is no distinction between intentional and unintentional. Too much contact results in a foul. Pretty simple.

A flagrant foul is the closest to what you are talking about.