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    Quote Originally Posted by Yahoo! News
    Microsoft Corp. plans to severely curtail the ways in which people running pirated copies of its dominant Windows operating system can receive software updates, including security fixes.

    The new authentication system, announced Tuesday and due to arrive by midyear, will still allow people with pirated copies of Windows to obtain security fixes, but their options will be limited. The move allows Microsoft to use one of its sharpest weapons access to security patches that can prevent viruses, worms and other crippling attacks to thwart a costly and meddlesome piracy problem.

    But some security experts said the crackdown also could increase Internet security problems in general, if there is a spike in unsecured computers open to attack, which then could be used to attack others.

    David Lazar, a director of the effort, said Microsoft would monitor that potential problem closely. But the company actually considers its authentication requirement one possible way to boost Internet security countering the idea it may increase threats. That's because pirated copies of Windows could contain viruses or other security threats, he said.

    Over the next few months, the software behemoth will begin to more broadly adopt the program, called Windows Genuine Advantage, that urges users to provide proof their Windows copy is authentic before receiving some software updates.

    By mid-2005, the program will become mandatory for Windows users to get virtually all updates, including security fixes available through the company's Windows Update Web site. But users who have pirated copies of Windows will be able to continue to get security fixes if they sign up to automatically receive security updates.

    Russ Cooper, a senior scientist with Cybertrust Inc., said completely cutting off access to security fixes for pirated machines could cause a spike in malicious, Internet-based attacks. He lauded Microsoft for mitigating that problem by continuing to allow all users to get the automatic updates, regardless of whether they're running pirated versions.

    Still, Cooper said he expected Microsoft to eventually cut off that security update avenue for pirated copies. He said the company may feel it has few other options as it tries to stop the millions of users who are running pirated copes of Windows.

    The operating system is one of the company's major cash cows, and the move comes as Microsoft is moving aggressively into emerging markets where piracy is thought to be more common.

    "The reality is that shareholders of Microsoft would like to see them get all the money they are owed," Cooper said.

    Microsoft said the company has no current plans to require users running automatic updates to provide proof that their copies of Windows are genuine.

    Lazar said piracy has cost the Redmond-based company "billions of dollars over the past 10 years," but he would not be more specific.

    "Our desire is to enhance the value of genuine Windows, to create a differentiation (and) to add more value in the form of greater security and reliability," Lazar said.

    Customers who visit the manual Windows Update site will be asked to prove that their copies of Windows are legitimate by allowing Microsoft's system to automatically run a check, or by providing a product identification number. Users who have lost that number will be asked three basic questions, and if they are deemed to be acting in good faith they will be given a free replacement key.

    The company also said it will begin providing discounted versions of Windows to users in China, Norway and the Czech Republic who discover they have a counterfeit version of Windows XP (news - web sites).

    Rob Enderle, principal analyst with the Enderle Group, is expecting the more stringent authentication system to be successful, as Internet attacks become ever more sophisticated and users with pirated copies of Windows become helpless to stop them.

    "It will create an environment where the pirated machines, if they're connected to the Internet, won't really work," he said.
    Man...Microsoft is stupid. Oh well, I ain't worried.



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    no microsoft are not stupid. why do they get the blame for not supporting people who have not paid them for it.

    blame the pirates for not paying for their software. hell linux is now a viable alternative and is completley free.

    I have no sympathy for people who can't afford the latest version of windows. what the hell are they doing with a pc in the first place.

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    I was reading something on zed net too. Scary stuff if you don't know what your doing . Wonder how many idiots installed that and ran it?

    Anouther good reason children , to only use Xp pro corp.
    Last edited by peat moss; 01-27-2005 at 12:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4play
    I have no sympathy for people who can't afford the latest version of windows.
    Alright...you give me $150 to go out and buy Windows XP, and I'll do it. Sorry, but not all of us are loaded enough to go out and splurge for a company that already has billions.



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    @imartin but you are loaded enough to be able to afford a monthly fee for the internet. there are free alternatives out there(linux). dont winge about it being too expensive get a cheaper alternative or get a pirated version which you cant update the choice is yours.

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    Who says you can't update ? I was one of the idiots who ran the program for a chuckle . Didn't have a problem . And with Key generators out there, you should n't either . When those scum bags release an O/S that the masses can afford , I'll buy it. Last time I looked on here it was Filesharing !

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    stopping pirates getting security updates is not gonna start to mid 2005 according to
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6868504/

    I share files as much as the next man/woman but i also give credit where its due. microsoft have made a very good operating system and deserve some recompence for it.

    I buy cds, tickets for bands i think deserve it. cinema tickets for films i have watched already at home because i know its worth it. I buy software where a free alternative is not available. i like to try before i buy and thats what filesharing lets you do. so microsoft is going to kill your free ride thats tuff luck.

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    @4play , Fair enought I do understand your point . I just think were being gouged for it. As a matter of fact, I consider myself a Microsoft Beta tester what with the shit I'v had to endure since WIN 95 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4play
    microsoft have made a very good operating system and deserve some recompence for it.
    Yes...because $150 is going to matter so much to a company who holds billions.

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    but you are loaded enough to be able to afford a monthly fee for the internet
    Whoopy-dee-doo, a whole $20/month for internet. Not to metion I also have to pay for my cell phone $45/month, gas in my car $15/week. It all adds up. I could give a flying fuck about poor, poor Bill Gates.
    Last edited by iMartin; 01-27-2005 at 01:06 AM.



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    hell i beta tested dos for these bar stewards i think i deserve free updates on any pirate versions of windows i throw at them but its not gonna happen. :-(

    Im wondering how long this policy lasts before people rip microsoft to shreads for making an operating system full of holes. Im guessing the bloody nose pr wise they get from this is gonna kill this policy within a month or 2 when the next blaster comes out.

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