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    Money Fist's Avatar Che-Che get the yayo
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    about 5mins ago i put part of my silver chain in som bleach to clean it
    took it out after 1min and now it looks like a crappy grey colour

    any scientists or jewlers care to answer

    im sure it is real silver
    it has the correct markings and was bought from a well known catalog that sez its silver
    Last edited by Fiber; 02-16-2005 at 02:32 PM.

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    http://aa.1asphost.com/desper8/silver.jpg

    here is a crappy picture i took with my phone (just gives an idea)
    the red circle shows were it got bleached!
    it dont even shine or reflect now like it used to

    i tried to scrub it with water and fairy liquid
    but to no avail

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    Bleach for silver................


    YoBling

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    Maybe give Argos a ring and tell them they sold you duff bling.

    Seriously tho' I don't know but putting it in bleach seems like a bad idea. I clean my silver chain with a special duster I bought from Samuels, or somewhere. Bleach cleans floors, not jewelry
    I plan on beating him to death with his kids. I'll use them as a bludgeon on his face. -

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    I thought bleach would actually cause silver to oxidize.....
    you might want to get some silver cleaner and try cleaning it again, I don't know if the bleach would destroy the silver for good

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    hmm
    well least i only applied it to 2 & of 15 of the links
    if any one points it out it will then i guess it will just make an interesting story

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPerry
    I thought bleach would actually cause silver to oxidize.....
    you might want to get some silver cleaner and try cleaning it again, I don't know if the bleach would destroy the silver for good
    bugger
    i hope not

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPerry
    I don't know if the bleach would destroy the silver for good
    Well, it would certainly oxidize the whole thing, but over an extremely long time.
    Fiber's jewellery is probably oxidized on its surface. Nothing a good polishing won't fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPerry
    I thought bleach would actually cause silver to oxidize.....
    you might want to get some silver cleaner and try cleaning it again, I don't know if the bleach would destroy the silver for good

    Listen to Mr. Perry.

    Fiber,

    What may have confused you is that when you add bleach to clothing, it reacts with the excess electrons in the clothing. The electrons are activated by light and give the garment unwanted shades of color. This oxidation releases electrons from the clothing and therefore the shirt comes out appearing nice and white.

    In the case of silver, it is oxygen or oxidizing agents (bleach ) that react with the silver molecules themselves and cause it to tarnish. It is not a matter of releasing electrons from the silver, as in the case of washing clothes.

    What you have essentially done is give your silver an accellerated course in "tarnish". Kind of like treating rust, by soaking in water.

    You need a "reducing" agent which will react with the oxygen now stuck on your metal and release it from the silver. So get gets some silver polish from the store.

    It can be salvaged with a good reducing agent.

    Just as a side note:

    Gold is considered a precious metal because it never oxidizes (rusts).
    Silver is considered semi-precious because it rusts slowly.


    2Ag0 + H2O + 2e- ---- Ag2O(tarnish) + 2OH- You did this
    Ag2O + H2O + 2e- ---- 2Ag(pure silver) + 2OH- You wanted this.
    Last edited by hobbes; 02-16-2005 at 03:23 PM.

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    how to clean silver - get a clean frying pan and put some water in it till it starts to boil, then put some tin foil in there . keep the heat on,and the foil in and put in your silver chain and 10 secs later it is clean

    edit ** haha im 17 and i know more than you lot on random things ~~
    Last edited by Gemby!; 02-16-2005 at 10:00 PM.
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