who is responsible?

[DanB]

Well said manker


I really really doubt any country anywhere would allow cards that give access to kiddie porn to be sold in their shops or on their street.

I am guessing that you buy these cards for a specific site, not which ever site you decide once you are online

[hobbes]

If you want "kiddie porn", how do you get it? It is not next to Penthouse because it is illegal. So it would seem that one would have to go to an adult bookstore and hang around and make connections with actual criminals in order to secure your purchase. This is both risky in that it could be a sting operation or in that criminals are dangerous people. They may be just be suckering you in to take your money and beat the crap out of you.


Now, you have a new alternative, porn cards. Now the cards are completely site annonymous, as I understand it. You wouldn't buy a "Hawt Latinas" card, you would buy a $25 card which could be used at ANY site. Once you activate the card, then whichever site you access receives the money. That is how I envision it working.

I can't imagine people wanting to go to the local store and asking for a $10 anal midgets card and a $20 shemale extravaganza card. You wouldn't want the missus finding that in your wallet. Plus there are so many porn sites you would need thousands and thousands of cards. That is why I see it as a blank card which can be used at any site that participates in the "card system". Having the cards be site specific would completely undermine the privacy you are seeking.

As you probably would expect, illegal porn sites don't register in the card system as "illegal porn site", but rather "vidco entertainment" or something vague like that.

So now instead of venturing forth into the criminal element to get your porn, you can go to a legitimate retailer, buy an annoymous card, access the site annoymously and view illegal porn without fear of prosecution, theft, or personal injury.

That is why I do not think it is ludicrous.

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[Cheese]

Only one company in America has the rights to sell these cards so I assume they also control what sites will actually honour these cards.

[bigboab]

I find it to hard understand how anyone can NOT see the possibility of a 'Loophole' in this system to allow people to access ANY porn site. I actually dont see the point of the system. Why dont these people just send the sites something equivalent to a Postal or Money Order. That would give them anonimity on both sides of the transaction.

Lets not forget that we are not dealing with a dirty old man in a Mac. We are dealing with people, if you excuse me calling them that, who are intelligent, a lot of them are high up in society. A lot of them are members of groups dedicated to this abnormal behaviour. They are obsessed and will strive to find a loophole. They will even get laws passed in their favour without you having any say.

Let me just, for a moment, describe what has happened in the last 40 years in the UK.

Early 1960's homosexuality illegal and frowned upon.

Middle 1960's homosexuality legal for over 21's.

1980's homosexuality legal for over 18's.

Fairly recently homosexuality legal for over 16's.

I am not homophobic but I cant remember any politician standing for election on any of the above laws. I personally find it obscene that this has allowed older men access to have legal 'access' to naive young boys. Please dont tell me I dont know what I am talking about. In the late 50's and early 60's I was stationed about 200 yards from the houses of parliament. You could not go to a pub in the centre of London without being accosted. Generally by a famous MP.

Sorry for havering a bit.

[hobbes]

Even if the cards were "site specific", it would be very easy to find via internet chatrooms which ones are fronts. You find out that "Hawt Latinas" is a real site with really hawt latinas, but if you go to page3, click on the third girl, then click on her heel, you will get a prompt "Do you want to see more of this hawt momma, then enter your vip code". You enter the code and are linked to the kiddie porn. They bill the card system as hawt latinas, but you ain't visiting their site for the ladies.

[manker]

If you want "kiddie porn", how do you get it? It is not next to Penthouse because it is illegal. So it would seem that one would have to go to an adult bookstore and hang around and make connections with actual criminals in order to secure your purchase. This is both risky in that it could be a sting operation or in that criminals are dangerous people. They may be just be suckering you in to take your money and beat the crap out of you.


Now, you have a new alternative, porn cards. Now the cards are completely site annonymous, as I understand it. You wouldn't buy a "Hawt Latinas" card, you would buy a $25 card which could be used at ANY site. Once you activate the card, then whichever site you access receives the money. That is how I envision it working.

I can't imagine people wanting to go to the local store and asking for a $10 anal midgets card and a $20 shemale extravaganza card. You wouldn't want the missus finding that in your wallet. Plus there are so many porn sites you would need thousands and thousands of cards. That is why I see it as a blank card which can be used at any site that participates in the "card system". Having the cards be site specific would completely undermine the privacy you are seeking.

As you probably would expect, illegal porn sites don't register in the card system as "illegal porn site", but rather "vidco entertainment" or something vague like that.

So now instead of venturing forth into the criminal element to get your porn, you can go to a legitimate retailer, buy an annoymous card, access the site annoymously and view illegal porn without fear of prosecution, theft, or personal injury.

That is why I do not think it is ludicrous.

Yeah, right.

There will be a nationwide scheme that any website can sign up to so that someone can access their site anonymously. That site will receive money from this scheme no matter what the content of their site is.

Do you not think that there will be a register of all the sites on the scheme and that someone may just check now and again.

Because I don't.

I think that in such a dubious world, like the interweb, there will be someone checking the content of EVERY site on that register every five minutes, uploads to the site server would have to be approved by a regulatory body.

To insinuate such a thing wouldn't happen is ... ludicrous.

[Snee]

But what if you've come there to check out the actual hawt latinas ( ) only to somehow find yourself at the kiddie pron site?

I bet it would be a relief then, if you didn't have to worry about the fbi busting down your door as you can't be traced.

[manker]

But what if you've come there to check out the actual hawt latinas ( ) only to somehow find yourself at the kiddie pron site?

That could happen anyway

[Snee]

Yep, but the risk of getting registered and traced is bigger if you've paid for site access with your credit card.

What I'm trying to say is that it isn't just the pedophiles that can avoid getting caught by the feds, but also those who gotten access, to whatever it is, unintentionally.

It's sort of gives you a safety margin when surfing questionable (whether you know they are or not) sites. And I guess it might actually save someone from being falsely prosecuted as something they are not, and I'm not sure that isn't a good thing.