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    porn cards
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    This is terribly exciting. ^

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    Who would buy a card?

    Anyone who either doesn't trust giving out his credit card number or doesn't want his wife to ask him about a mysterious entry on the credit card bill.

    So privacy is a key issue for our target audience.

    So I would envision it as a company that manages the running of the business end, financed by the adult websites that want to participate in the "card system".

    The homepage would contain all sites subscribing.

    You could go to the store, place your money in a machine (that is in an 18 and up area, like a liquor store) and it would electronically credit you 20 dollars to the homepage. You would be given a machine generated id and passcode which would be printed on a simple card.

    Once back at home you access the homepage, entering your unique login, and you now can click on any link on the site. This could be in the 10's of thousands, potentially. The different websites get a prorated fee based on the time spent at each site.

    This way you can fulfill all your porn fantasies and you have complete anonymity.

    Where is Robert5000, he may want in on this.
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    Further to my earlier post, Snny. When you send a Postal Order you keep a stub with all the details etc. So if you arrange via a password system to send a Postal Order you still have proof that you sent this company money. So if they tried to 'diddle' you the number of the Postal Order can be traced to who cashed it. That would cancel the anonimity of course. But it would also 'damage' the credibility of the internet company.

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    @bob: It's probably for the best.


    @hobbes, I reckon that might be a few years from now, from what I understand it's only a relatively small scale operation right now, and thus it won't be that much room to hide something illegal from whoever monitors the operation.

    But when it comes to internet and pornography the development may well be very fast, what with the demand.

    At least I assume there is a considerable demand for internet pornography as there's so much of it, and one wonders how the multitude of sites could all survive of no one was willing to pay.

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    Trouble is. Drink and watching pornography dont go together. It all gets spilled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbes
    Fresh for snny

    Who would buy a card?

    Anyone who either doesn't trust giving out his credit card number or doesn't want his wife to ask him about a mysterious entry on the credit card bill.

    So privacy is a key issue for our target audience.

    So I would envision it as a company that manages the running of the business end, financed by the adult websites that want to participate in the "card system".

    The homepage would contain all sites subscribing.

    You could go to the store, place your money in a machine (that is in an 18 and up area, like a liquor store) and it would electronically credit you 20 dollars to the homepage. You would be given a machine generated id and passcode which would be printed on a simple card.

    Once back at home you access the homepage, entering your unique login, and you now can click on any link on the site. This could be in the 10's of thousands, potentially. The different websites get a prorated fee based on the time spent at each site.

    This way you can fulfill all your porn fantasies and you have complete anonymity.

    Where is Robert5000, he may want in on this.
    This makes simple sense.

    Now hobbes, can you explain what boab is talking about?

    Since I don't have the years he has in the criminal field, I am befuddled.

    @SnnY - Pornography is the biggest money maker on the internet.
    Last edited by Busyman; 02-25-2005 at 10:02 PM.
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  10. The Drawing Room   -   #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    This makes simple sense.

    Now hobbes, can you explain what boab is talking about?

    Since I don't have the years he has in the criminal field, I am befuddled.
    Well, I don't think, as Boab suggests, that we can make the cards illegal just because someone might use them to support his "illegal website".

    Boab, like myself, have looked at this from the perspective of how someone could use these cards to finance their child pornography. For instance, if I went to a kiddie porn site and signed up with my credit card, any FBI raid on the place would lead them to my doorstep. If I can access the site annonymously, using the appropriate proxys, I can remain hidden from the FBI as they have no way to track me (no credit card #).

    The key is how to pay the porn site owner. Well you do so by paying for it at their legimate site using a porn card. Once you have credited their legit site, they allow to access a private site that is completely separate from the card system.

    How will they learn about these hidden sites? I don't know, probably however they do it now. Little private chatroom on the internet or something.

    One could just send the money, but gosh, it got lost again. And they know, even if they do this, you'll still be coming back.

    The porn card is a great way to launder money, view kiddie porn under an extra layer of security and convenience and make the website owners W-2* look legit at the years end.

    To answer your question, I think Boabs experience in criminology made him attempt to figure out how "bad guys" could use this to their advantage. BY knowing how to think like they do, he can anticipate problems which may arise and develop a plan to tackle them.




    *A W-2 is a yearly earnings statement for income tax purposes- for those not in the USA.

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