pharmacists refusing requests

**Arm** · 03-01-2005, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by hobbes

The original post proposed a situation.

In a freemarket system, I stated that no owner should be forced to stock anything he does not wish.

We have been enlightened that it is a requirement to carry an NHS list of medications and this is a condition which must be agreed upon to obtain a pharmacy license.

There is no discussion then.

If there is a rule and you break it, you will pay a penalty. Can't really discuss that.

Excellent.

Now lets lock this topic and start a new argument.

**bigboab** · 03-01-2005, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

I believe it is now illegal (in the UK) to sell more than a specific number of painkillers, to the same person, at the same time.

It's a sort of suicide "cooling off" period type of thing.

Sorry if this has already been posted.

This is true. Especially with Paracetamol. Nothing to stop you going to another shop and buying more though.

**hobbes** · 03-01-2005, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by bigboab

This is true. Especially with Paracetamol. Nothing to stop you going to another shop and buying more though.

Yes, but with "painkillers" you simply fall sleep, stop breathing and die. With tylenol, the course is a long and protracted death.

It is all about what is pleasant. In a pique of depression do I want to hurt myself with a razor, have a long, protracted death with tylenol, or just go to sleep with painkillers.

We must realize that 199/200 suicide attempts are a plea for help, and not to actuallt kill oneself.

**bigboab** · 03-01-2005, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by hobbes

Yes, but with "painkillers" you simply stop breathing, fall asleep and die. With tylenol, the course is a long and protracted death.

It is all about what is pleasant. In a pique of depression do I want to hurt myself with a razor, have a long, protracted death with tylenol, or just go to sleep with painkillers.

We must realize that 199/200 suicide attempts are a plea for help, and not to actuallt kill oneself.

Have you tried any of these self help groups?

How can you have a self help group? It is like having an Anarchist party.

**hobbes** · 03-01-2005, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Arm

Thats really fucking stupid. Think about it, 1 bottle of Tylenol is enough to kill yourself with(providing it's maximum strength) and limiting the amount is going to help how? And besides, if you really wanted to kill yourself it wouldnt be hard to go to another store and buy another bottle.

It is actually not stupid at all.

If you want a painkiller such as morphine, the idea is to give you less than a lethal dose.

Typically, the pharmacist will call the doctor to confirm the prescription for such a highly controlled medication.

The pharmacist will also take your prescription away so that you cannot take it next door.

If you somehow manage to keep it and take it next door, the second call to your doctor in 15 minutes for morphine might just draw some attention.

That is ideally how the system is intended to work.

The way around this is to shop doctors. You go to 4 or 5 different doctors who each write you a 'script for Morphine. Then you cash each in at 5 different pharmacies.

The point that is critical is that such an endeavor cannot be accomplished in a pique of sorrow, it takes a pre-meditated attack plan.

If someone is willing to take the time to do this, they are pretty much bent on killing themselves.

Jpol's plan attempts to thwart the other 199 who really don't want to die from "X"ing themselves while in an acute emotional state.