Schoolgirl wins Muslim gown case

[bigboab]

Then your lawyer and the legislature that made these "rules" are moronic idiots.

I mean, this an easily defendable thing. There is no way that action taken against your neighbors would be considered 'worng'.

I too don't believe this story. It's too ridiculous.

So your neighbors are free to trudge through your yard? Are you free to do the same through theirs?

I also can't believe that you would allow someone to bend you over in such a manner while you just stare in the camara and say.."That's the rules folks".

Maybe it's an American thing but something like this would make news, be appealed or something. I couldn't just sit and watch someone bring their shit through my yard and smile about it. I would literally resort to some street shit, get the person in private and stick a pistol in his mouth or something.

Most things have a simple solution.

Right lets make some things a bit clearer. I stay in the end house of a block of three. When the houses were built the middle house had 'reasonable' access through the garden at the back of both houses on either side. When the houses were bought from the council under the 'privatization' policy years ago this 'reasonable access' was carried over into the deeds of any new owner. The 'garbage' at that time was stored in an old fashioned bin and kept in a 'cupboard at the front of the house. So when the wheelie bins came into being, access through the back garden did not apply to them. When the wheelie bins appeared the owner of the middle house demanded the right to store their wheelie bin in the back garden This would involve dragging it through our garden twice a week. Is there anything else required to make this any clearer. For goodness sakes. A couple of our countries went to war with the loss of thousands of lives on the back of a pack of lies. I tell the truth and a couple of idiots in here dont believe me. Beggars belief.

[DanB]

Its cos it sounds like a pile of horseshit

[bigboab]

Its cos it sounds like a pile of horseshit

You would know. You post plenty of it.

[ilw]

I didn't call you a liar, I just thought you'd interpreted a situation and gotten it woefully wrong. If the story is true then i stand by the statement that the situation is ridiculous and the law should be changed.
according to the info you just supplied anybody living in the middle house would have had legal access to your back garden regardless of race.
It sounds like the initial response from the council was when they were unaware that the people in the middle house actually did have the right to go across your property, then at approximately the same time you made them aware that the people next door were 'coloured' they became aware of these peoples legal rights. (or you spoke to someone who actually had a clue about the legal issues)
My only question is how the subject of your neighbours race even came up?

[bigboab]

If you say that you dont believe what I typed then you are calling me a liar.
The way they found out that my neighbour was coloured was when they asked their name. They assumed that my neighbour was coloured because they had a Pakistani sounding name. I know that making these assumptions are wrong. But in this case they were right in their assumptions. As I have stated already, the answer was a six foot fence. there is a locked gate in the fence. If my neighbour wants reasonable access then he asks and gets it. Then neighbours in this case have since moved. Please dont ask me why they moved because you wont belive that either. If you really want to know ask and I will PM you.

[bigboab]

Isn't there a back path. Terraced house where I come from have one.

My parents had a similar issue, when the neighbours bought their Council house they decided that other people did not have the right to walk round "their" path to get to the back door. They even built a fence and gate.

My brother checked with the Council and it transpired that you bought the house and back garden, but not the path. That stayed as Council property (for this very reason) so access to the back door was allowed.

Needless to say we started using the back door more frequently (ooer missus).

Bar Stewards.

No there is no back access(ooer). Though I dont know why they did not make one as a right angled path comes almost right up to their back fence. It falls about 4 foot short.

[ilw]

Don't really care if or why they moved.
Let me get a few things straight:
1) Anyone living in the middle property has legal access regardless of race
2) The council initially misled you in this respect
3) If the first 2 are true your lawyer misled you regarding ethnic confrontation guidelines

Are any of those incorrect?

[bigboab]

When they left did they take afence.

Sorry I cant put a Smiley at the start of my typing. Must be something to do with firefox. They took all my posts too. Or was that Rookie?

[bigboab]

Don't really care if or why they moved.
Let me get a few things straight:
1) Anyone living in the middle property has legal access regardless of race
2) The council initially misled you in this respect
3) If the first 2 are true your lawyer misled you regarding ethnic confrontation guidelines

Are any of those incorrect?

1. Yes
2. No not misled me. Probably by calling ethnic guidelines 'Rules' maybe.
3. No he did not. They exist. Seen them at the college where I taught.
I think each place have their own 'unnoficial' rules regarding these things. Frightened of getting sued. Yep its started over here now.

[ilw]

I thought i'd set out a pretty airtight series of points, how can 1 be true and 2 not?

The matter went to the local council. They agreed that we were in the right to refuse access.

And yet by agreeing to point 1 you're saying that you don't have right to refuse access? Hence the council must have got it wrong initially.
And if 1 is true, 3 has to be true as well, ie if access is allowed regardless of race then it has nothing to do with ethnic guidelines
(sorry rereading it 3 wasn't clear, i didn't mean that ethnic confrontation guidelines don't exist i meant that they don't apply in this case)