Patriotism = Parochialism

**Busyman** · 03-13-2005, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Rat Faced

Im on Hobbes side on this.. ( I only read 1st 4 pages, so i dont know how its developed since then)

Atheism is as much a religion as any other.. ie Based on Faith and not evidence.

Whether it's a religion was never really an issue for me. Call it a religion..great...uh sure...I'm on his side too.

**Busyman** · 03-13-2005, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

George Bush claims to be a Christian, therefore all Christians are responsible for any actions he takes or policies he makes. I thought you knew that.

We are on the same page.....

**hobbes** · 03-13-2005, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by Busyman

We are on the same page.....

Please explain how this post makes any sense? You are saying that George Bush is not a born again Christian and he is lying too us to further his political career.

Crack head to born again Bible thumper. Sounds convincing to me.

Do you think he was selling us a line?

Bush considering his political future decides on campaign slogans:

America, I won't sell you a line, but I might buy one.

or

I'm born again and I love God. Family values and all that.

I think somebody may have advised him wisely.

**Busyman** · 03-13-2005, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by hobbes

Please explain how this post makes any sense? You are saying that George Bush is not a born again Christian and he is lying too us to further his political career.

Crack head to born again Bible thumper. Sounds convincing to me.

Do you think he was selling us a line?

Bush considering his political future decides on campaign slogans:

America, I won't sell you a line, but I might buy one.

or

I'm born again and I love God. Family values and all that.

I think somebody may have advised him wisely.

Jeez man...read my and JP's posts in context then come back to me.

Read what it says..You are all explaining this and that which doesn't warrant explanation.

Buy a vowel or something.

**bigboab** · 03-13-2005, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Busyman

Jeez man...read my and JP's posts in context then come back to me.

Read what it says..You are all explaining this and that which doesn't warrant explanation.

Buy a vowel or something.

Go to your bed. this is far too late at night for you to be up. I wont tell you again.

Good Night.

**Busyman** · 03-13-2005, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by bigboab

Go to your bed. this is far too late at night for you to be up. I wont tell you again.

Good Night.

Damn man what's funny is I did shortly after that post.

I was just on the computer without doing something else at the time (except trying to watch Bill Maher)...very unusual.

**hobbes** · 03-13-2005, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Busyman

Jeez man...read my and JP's posts in context then come back to me.

Read what it says..You are all explaining this and that which doesn't warrant explanation.

Buy a vowel or something.

Context is simple.

You said that answering to a higher power prevents people from acting on their selfish desires.

Bush sent troops to kill people despite being a Christian. This means he is killing people in spite of God's order not to. His belief in God stopped nothing.

Jp then stated that this means that somehow I was blaming all Christians for Bushs' action.

That conclusion is illogical. I mean there is absolutely nothing in my posts that would infer that, nothing.

How can you agree with such an illogical statement?

**hobbes** · 03-13-2005, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

Oh and you didn't realise I was being facetious. Arse off, arsey.

At the time, I felt it was giving the impression to others reading the thread that I was somehow smearing all Christians because of the actions of Bush.

My point was that people seem to do what they want, despite mouthing a devotion to a God that strictly forbids killing.

If you were simply interjecting a comment that Christians were getting shit because of the actions of Bush and that is what BM is agreeing with, I am fine with that.

I simply wanted to make it clear that I was not casting such aspersions.

The thread was running a bit hot at the time.

**Rat Faced** · 03-13-2005, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by hobbes

Bush sent troops to kill people despite being a Christian. This means he is killing people in spite of God's order not to. His belief in God stopped nothing.

Strictly speaking, the commandment is:

Thou shalt not kill..

Says bog all about getting someone else to do it for you...