We Need A Bookworld And We Need It Now!

[MagicNakor]

Infinitely impossible?

[ne1GotZardoz]

Here is Jetje's reply to my message:

I read almost every topic posted on the forum. So i track that topic 2. The mods and admins have debates on this right now. I asked my question there cause my opinion is that one or two big threads can cover all audiobooks. I would like to see i'm wrong. IMO there still is no need for a sepereate world there. If we do that we get the anime people asking their own world And who knows what will follow..??

Start one thread in one of the worlds and post hashes in there could be sufficient. Prove me wrong there!?
But i'm not the only decission maker, again that's why i asked my questions. I am not against a bookworld, i'm against having to many specific/small sections. I think it will do no good to the board.
Btw i'm a reader, read 2 -3 books every month. can read/write in 4 different languages.

But we have a big debate on this in the mod room... Answers to that soon to follow my guess.

And here is my reply back to him:

Thanks for the reply.
I understand your delema. If you do it for us, you have to do it for everyone.
I don't necessarily agree with that though.
Movieworld covers video formats.
Musicworld covers audio formats.
Softwareworld covers...well..software including games, buisiness and graphic software, etc.
Gameworld wasn't really necessary except that I'm sure the softwareworld forums were probably excessive so a gameworld was added. (I'm guessing here).
Hardwareworld. Not really sure why that one is here since you cannot download hardware. Firmware revisions maybe?
But there is no forum set for Books. And books, and book discussion do not really fit into any of the other forums.
To limit it to a hash thread would be unfair since other forum sets are not limited like that.

I hope these arguments help.

Peace

[MagicNakor]

I can't see how anime factors into it. It comes in two formats, really.

Movies/television shows.
Comic books.

One of those is already represented. Hopefully, the other will be soon. I already explained my point of view about the thread-hash-world thing earlier in this topic.

[Note: Sarcasm below.]

I'd argue that Gameworld is just a subset of Softwareworld. Why don't we merge the two? And I'd argue that Hardwareworld has less to do with P2P file-swapping than Bookworld ever would. Why don't we just obliterate it? There are plenty of places to get hardware help.


[Note: Sarcasm above.]

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@20 April 2003 - 19:54
I can't see how anime factors into it. It comes in two formats, really.

Movies/television shows.
Comic books.

One of those is already represented. Hopefully, the other will be soon. I already explained my point of view about the thread-hash-world thing earlier in this topic.

[Note: Sarcasm below.]

I'd argue that Gameworld is just a subset of Softwareworld. Why don't we merge the two? And I'd argue that Hardwareworld has less to do with P2P file-swapping than Bookworld ever would. Why don't we just obliterate it? There are plenty of places to get hardware help.


[Note: Sarcasm above.]

I pretty much said all that. Without the sarcasm of course.

I haven't heard any reply to my last message to Jetje.

I hope thats a good thing. I failed though, to point out there there are more formats than just audio for books, also text. I had pointed that out I thought in the original post.

Surely he has seriously studdied the issue.

Do you suppose its possible he is thinking only of audio books?

I have the Adobe PDF and the DOC versions of Plato's Republic.
My son had me download the entire Harry Potter series in PDF format.
He has the hardcover books, but he thought it would be cool to carry all the books with him on the laptop.

You can get the whole list of Government Auctions on here. Thats a big book with tons of info.
But no place to really talk about it. If you post that info in the lounge, it will just get lost on the 3rd page.

Oh well. I hope the Mods can come to an acceptable agreement.

The Ongoing Coalition forum has been the main reason I keep wasting my time on here. When its gone, there will really be nothing left worth commenting on.

Peace

[MagicNakor]

He may be thinking only of audio books. I don't know, though.

Most of my books are in .PDF format. I've got a few .RTF, though.

[jetje]

imo opinion a book still needs to smell and feel paper...
I always buy the books that i read fresh and new... have a lot of them now...
Still can't imagine the pleasure of e-books...
well i admit i have to try that once then...

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by jetje @ 22 April 2003 - 05:41
imo opinion a book still needs to smell and feel paper...
I always buy the books that i read fresh and new... have a lot of them now...
Still can't imagine the pleasure of e-books... 
well i admit i have to try that once then... 

There are alot of rare books online and out of print books.

One of the greatest advantages of having a book on your computer, is the ability to search through it for a certain passage, word, phrase.

For example, if you have the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and you're trying to remember what that ravenous beast was that you had to put a towel on your head to escape from, you can search for the word 'towel' and find it easily.

If you have a copy of any bible, technical manual, how-to book, what-have-you, on your computer, you can look up specific information in seconds that you may never be able to find otherwise, even with an index.

Plus the fact that you can carry an entire library of books on one CD.

E-Books can't be beat dude.

Peace

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@22 April 2003 - 04:40
He may be thinking only of audio books. I don't know, though.

Most of my books are in .PDF format. I've got a few .RTF, though.

What do you use to view rich text format?

I'm guessing thats relatively new? I have only started seeing them recently.

[MagicNakor]

Not new at all. Any word processor (barring Notepad) will open it.

Edit: Well, Notepad'll open it, you just lose the formatting.

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@22 April 2003 - 18:47
Not new at all. Any word processor (barring Notepad) will open it.

Edit: Well, Notepad'll open it, you just lose the formatting.

I'll have to download an RTF file.

One thing I love about PDF is that it looks like you're reading book pages.

I even have a copy of one book somewhere that has a few letters that look like they did not fully type.

How does it do that?

Do some PDF files use scanned pages? I can still search for specific words. I know the book graphics look just like they do in the book.

Very interesting.
I'll need to check into that.

I had a friend once, argueing that you could not fit an entire book on one floppy disk.
(he had never seen an etext)
He was thinking bits and bytes.
8 bits to a byte.
1 byte per character.
50 characters per line average.
25 lines per page average.
300 pages for an average book.


Thats 405Kb

Thats without compression.

With compression you can fit 4, 5, even more books on a single floppy.

A person who moves around alot doesn't really have room for every book they would like.

A single CD can hold 700mb of info.

If you figure an ample 1mb average file size, thats 700 books.

On one CD.

Hell...The complete works of Shakespeare, every play poem, everything in print from him, only uses 5mb.
A large portion of books are less than 300Kb.
All four Harry Potter books are around 4.5mb total. (big books)

Necronomicon---100Kb
The Apocrypha---844Kb
Koran---1.2mb
King James Bible---5mb
Plato's Republic---400Kb
US Army Survival Handbook---32mb. (I'm downloading it right now. Gotta know why its bigger than shakespeare. Must be alot of graphics)
Ranger's Handbook---415Kb
The Simarillion---847Kb
Chronicles of Narnia---3.5mb (7 books and including maps)
Dickens A Christmas carol---400Kb
Prodigal Genius---600Kb (Bio of Nikola Tesla)
Hydroponic Gardening---6Kb
Indoor Gardening---27Kb
FBI Top Secret UFO Files---763Kb
Brief History of Wicca---331Kb
US Declaration of Independance---77Kb

This is a VERY small portion of what is available on here.

Many of these books cannot be had by walking into your local library or bookstore.
Some communities outright ban some of these.

So much for Freedom of the Press.

Wasn't it Utah that had the book burning back a few years ago?

I've found books in library sales that were great literary works or good period info, that had not been in print for well over a hundred years.
Some libraries have local one of a kind books that were area specific.
Then someone with a hitleresque attitude decides that books are evil.
Imagine what is lost to the ravages of time or mans lack of good sense.

We need a book world.


Peace