Do you own a gun?

**Busyman** · 04-06-2005, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Peerzy

Less kids buy guns, meaning more kids are scared to jack your house, meaning less of your shit stolen, meaning you americans will have to go out hunting for your daily prey.

Less intruders, more random shootings, it doesn't make sense, but hey, thats the American way.

Kids can't buy guns legally.

I had a gun when I was 16 and it wasn't from the store.
I now have registered weapons. If I couldn't buy registered weapons then I could always get a burner.

Criminals are known for getting burners. These are filtered in just like drugs albeit some are stolen from registered users with the serials scratched off.

I've had guns from nowhere. They had serial numbers but came from no store or registered user.

**Busyman** · 04-06-2005, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by vidcc

I know what j2s point was (albeit lighthearted) but that had nothing to do with what i pointed out.

A lawfully armed "idiot" is JUST as dangerous as an armed criminal.

Arm an idiot...add "the boys", a pickup and a couple of cases of beer....

Damn and wanker called me Capt Obvious.

My apologies then.....
However, I'll take the lawfully armed idiot over the armed criminal anyday (I'm sure 7-Eleven clerks feel the same way).

The numbers for the criminal beat the lawful idiot.

**manker** · 04-06-2005, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by Busyman

I can't be sure specifically, beats me.

We have differences in law, capitalism, multiple cultures, etc. I hear of people wanting to come hear more than England to make their own way.

The point is our countries are not merely separated by gun ownership and water. Maybe folks have to much fun here. I really couldn't tell ya. I just know it ain't merely gun ownership.

Besides criminal's shooting the local 7-Eleven clerk during a robbery, or the innocent bystander, guns are not on our minds....unless I'm listening to some rap or watching Menace To Society.

Yeah, tricky, eh.

I don't think Americans have more fun than their UK counterparts. Not quite sure where that notion comes from.

I agree there is more to the difference in our societies than gun law but it's esoteric and hard to pin down. The right to bear arms is the obvious difference and it will account for much of the crime rate difference.

What better accompaniment to facilitate a crime, than a gun.

J2 seems to think that America has proportionately more idiots ergo more crime, but I don't think that's true and probably a bit harsh on the ol' US of A. It's down chiefly to guns being widely available.

I reckon.

**Peerzy** · 04-06-2005, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by Busyman

Kids can't buy guns legally.

Some kid sure could when he walked into wallmart brough a handgun and some ammo, went to school and shot his friends and teachers, ain't see anything like that in a long time in the UK

BTW all the confuzzling language people are using is confusing :crying:

**sparsely** · 04-06-2005, 02:58 AM

psst, Peezry...they think it adds more weight to their argument

**Busyman** · 04-06-2005, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by Peerzy

Some kid sure could when he walked into wallmart brough a handgun and some ammo, went to school and shot his friends and teachers, ain't see anything like that in a long time in the UK

BTW all the confuzzling language people are using is confusing :crying:

I never heard of a kid buying a gun at a WalMart. Ammo maybe but not a gun.

**Busyman** · 04-06-2005, 03:39 AM

I was just watching some of Bowling For Colombine (yesterday) and on the interview with Charlton Heston, Michael Moore asked him why he doesn't lock his guns up and remove the ammo.

Weirdly enough I do just that.

Change the laws regarding gun ownership without getting rid of gun ownership and everyone's happy