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no thanks..... Tghe only name I need is the one my parents gave meOriginally Posted by MCHeshPants420
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Fine by me.Originally Posted by RPerry
When others keep on an even keel and intelligently I'll respond in kind.
In other words
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Last edited by Busyman; 04-07-2005 at 01:37 PM.
Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!
Flies Like An Arrow, Flies Like An Apple
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Just when you think things are changing.... they really do
http://www.wftv.com/news/4355286/detail.htmlFlorida NRA Bill Would Allow People To Kill Others In Public
People Who Feel Threatened Could Use Deadly Force
POSTED: 8:20 am EDT April 7, 2005
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday he intends to sign a bill that would allow people who feel threatened -- even on the street or at a baseball game -- to "meet force with force" and defend themselves without fear of prosecution.
The measure, the top priority of the National Rifle Association in Florida this year, passed the House 94-20 on Tuesday. It had already passed the Senate.
Bush, who has championed tougher penalties for people convicted of using guns in crimes, said the bill is about self-defense and called it "a good, common sense, anti-crime issue."
The measure essentially extends a right Floridians already have in their home or car. Under present law, however, people attacked anywhere else are supposed to do what they can to avoid escalating the situation and can use deadly force only after they've tried to retreat.
"I'm sorry, people, but if I'm attacked I shouldn't have a duty to retreat," said the bill's sponsor, state Rep. Dennis Baxley. "That's a good way to get shot in the back."
Baxley said that if people have the clear right to defend themselves without having to worry about legal consequences, criminals will think twice.
Opponents feared the bill would make Florida resemble the wild West, but defenders say it is no different from what most other states allow in laws governing self-defense.
The bill said a person has "the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so, to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another."
Last edited by RPerry; 04-07-2005 at 02:16 PM.
Originally Posted by RPerry
Only in America would you be allowed to take like another persons life if they threatened you with nasty words and a big foam finger.
I'm sorry, I didn't have the Dr. Suess version for you, to help you understand Peerzy. It says "the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so, to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another." Meeting force with force doesn't include your stuffed animalsOriginally Posted by Peerzy
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Originally Posted by RPerry
So teaching children that if someone hits you, that you smack them back in the face is right? Teaching children to retaliate whenever possible, teaching children that violence is the answer.
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Jeb Bush rawks
Two blokes meet in a dark alley, one guy shoots the other without provacation but in court says that the dead bloke was trying to steal his wallet.
I'm with Peerzy. That proposed ammendment is absolutely ridiculous.
A thousand floridian defence lawyers are smiling inside but looking in the mirror with deadpan faces and practicing the line "My client thought his life was in danger, he had every right to shoot to kill" -- how can they fail to win the case. The only person who knows for certain to the contrary has a tag on his toe.
As to the bill making criminals think twice, all it will do is give them the notion that they'd better get that first shot in.
For a state with such a high income, and dependency in some parts, regarding foreign tourism - Florida has just made itself as appealing to Europeans and Japanese as Tikrit.
I never said I agreed with the law change, you would just assume that knowing we have a gun in our house. I do think the law change is just asking for more firearm deaths than we already have.Originally Posted by manker
However... Not only is Florida a Tourism state, its a retirement state, and I'm happy for the older people who don't have to put up with the bullshit criminals do to them.
I would not choose this law for myself, I'm still young enough to fend for me. its easy for a senior citizen to get a permit to carry though, so I feel happy for them.
Old people with guns?Originally Posted by RPerry
They kill enough people on the roads...
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