Do you own a gun?

[RPerry]

Old people with guns? They kill enough people on the roads...

Maybe where you live thats the case, but we seem to have a problem with the 18-22 hispanic people in my area. Ask anyone who's been to Puerto Rico

[manker]

I never said I agreed with the law change, you would just assume that knowing we have a gun in our house. I do think the law change is just asking for more firearm deaths than we already have.
However... Not only is Florida a Tourism state, its a retirement state, and I'm happy for the older people who don't have to put up with the bullshit criminals do to them.
I would not choose this law for myself, I'm still young enough to fend for me. its easy for a senior citizen to get a permit to carry though, so I feel happy for them.

Eh?

Why did you presume that diatribe was aimed at you, as you rightly say, you never said that you agreed with it.

I didn't quote you and was merely stating my opinion on the matter, is that okay.


But since you've replied ... .

I'm in favour of re-testing drivers at 60 because they're a nuisance on the road and cost lives, it's a fact that your reflexes dull as you get to a certain age. This new law is going to make the criminals adopt a new mentality, kill or be killed.

Even if the pensioner is packing, what chance does he or she have. By the time that they fumble around for the weapon, the criminal is going to be pointing his own at their face or discharging it.

[Peerzy]

The hunt is on, kill or be killed....

[RPerry]

Eh?

Why did you presume that diatribe was aimed at you, as you rightly say, you never said that you agreed with it.

I didn't quote you and was merely stating my opinion on the matter, is that okay.


But since you've replied ... .

I'm in favour of re-testing drivers at 60 because they're a nuisance on the road and cost lives, it's a fact that your reflexes dull as you get to a certain age. This new law is going to make the criminals adopt a new mentality, kill or be killed.

It seems to me the criminals were killing anyway......

[manker]

It seems to me the criminals were killing anyway......

Wow, that special Floridian law of the right to carry a weapon in public seems to be working a treat.


Even if they are killing at the moment, which they undoubtedly are, you can't be blind to the fact that it's probable that they would be more disposed to discharge their weapon because of this law. If a criminal feels threatened then he will take steps to defend himself and remember, he is not bound by the law of the land.

This law is encouraging members of the public to stand their ground against muggers. FFS, give him your damn wallet!

[Peerzy]

It seems to me the criminals were killing anyway......

But now they can get away with it.

[RPerry]

Wow, that special Floridian law of the right to carry a weapon in public seems to be working a treat.


Even if they are killing at the moment, which they undoubtedly are, you can't be blind to the fact that it's probable that they would be more disposed to discharge their weapon because of this law. If a criminal feels threatened then he will take steps to defend himself and remember, he is not bound by the law of the land.

This law is encouraging members of the public to stand their ground against muggers. FFS, give him your damn wallet!

I don't think its so much muggings that encouraged this law. Can't back it up because I don't remember where I saw it, but it seems people who were polled as to how much cash they carry averaged around $20. The majority of people just carry their bank debit card. In all seriousness, I think the most trouble is going to occur where it has been anyway, in Downtown Orlando where the drug dealers hang out on the corners or Orange Blossom Trail.....
I'm sure those who are against this law will have numbers for others too see exactly how many more peolple were killed as a direct result of this law.

[manker]

What else is there apart from attacks for cash or a cash equivalent, i.e. muggings.

There is sexual assault but that's it. Under existing law, I imagine it would already be okay for a woman to shoot a guy that was trying to rape her.

Dennis Baxley said 'If I was attacked I shouldn't have to take a backward step' so presumably he is talking of being mugged or just getting beaten up for being an idiot.

[RPerry]

What else is there apart from attacks for cash or a cash equivalent, i.e. muggings.

There is sexual assault but that's it. Under existing law, I imagine it would already be okay for a woman to shoot a guy that was trying to rape her.

Dennis Baxley said 'If I was attacked I shouldn't have to take a backward step' so presumably he is talking of being mugged or just getting beaten up for being an idiot.

I honestly can't answer that, because as I said, I knew nothing of this law until last night reading the newspaper.... I would think the 2 biggest reasons would be home invasion, or car jackings, however both were already covered under the old law
We did have several tourists from the UK that were held up in front of their motel rooms some time back, but you guys can't have guns, don't believe in havings guns, can't carry them on the airplane even if you did, so I'm sure that isn't it either.
I sure The NRA made a contribution to Jeb Bush for his impending presidency or something.... that must be it

[manker]

I honestly can't answer that, because as I said, I knew nothing of this law until last night reading the newspaper.... I would think the 2 biggest reasons would be home invasion, or car jackings, however both were already covered under the old law
We did have several tourists from the UK that were held up in front of their motel rooms some time back, but you guys can't have guns, don't believe in havings guns, can't carry them on the airplane even if you did, so I'm sure that isn't it either.
I sure The NRA made a contribution to Jeb Bush for his impending presidency or something.... that must be it

It's a weird one for sure.