Do you own a gun?

[vidcc]

Comparative homicide rates in English-speaking developed countries

I wonder why they just have England and Wales and don't include Scotland and N.Ireland ?
I realise that N.Ireland would be tilted because of the terrorism figures ( I'm not sure when this graph was made)

Still I don't think it would lessen the impact of the graph.

[fkdup74]

sorry guys, i dont think this is gonna reach 1000

blah, not so fast this baby's movin, we can hit 2k!

and this here is nice in theory.....

unarmed homeowner vs armed intruder

homeowner cowers and does whatever the intruder wants. it's not very dignified but the homeowner will live to fight another day.

......but this isnt a theoretical world
real violence happens daily, to truly innocent people
so I would rather be armed and prepared against a potential murderer, rapist, child molester, etc.....
than to think to myself, "oh this poor bastard just wants a few jewels or cash, then to run off safely into the night"
and in that thought, risking my daughter to greater evils than knowing her father killed a man in self defense
I would rather her live with that, than to be exposed to the mental scars of whatever else could happen should someone intrude on my residence
now if it was known 100% that the perpetrator just wanted property,
let him/her have it, fk cares about property, it can be replaced
but it can never be known, and the fact is, our prisons are filled with irrational, psychotic people,
that do unspeakable things to women & children
sorry, but not my daughter, not if I have a say in the matter
and as long as our Constitution grants us the right to bear arms,
I have a say in the matter

[GepperRankins]

I've never done a drive-by so wtf are you talking about?

The only thing related to a car and a gun that's happened to me was a stray bullet on Easter Sunday when I had my Toyota.

This drive by stuff is bullshit.

maybe that was it. i knew you'd said something along those lines. i still think you're full of shit though

[Snee]

our prisons are filled with irrational, psychotic people,

No they aren't.

There are some, but your prisons are hardly full of them, and they aren't all into burglaries either.

[GepperRankins]

blah, not so fast this baby's movin, we can hit 2k!

and this here is nice in theory.....

......but this isnt a theoretical world
real violence happens daily, to truly innocent people
so I would rather be armed and prepared against a potential murderer, rapist, child molester, etc.....
than to think to myself, "oh this poor bastard just wants a few jewels or cash, then to run off safely into the night"
and in that thought, risking my daughter to greater evils than knowing her father killed a man in self defense
I would rather her live with that, than to be exposed to the mental scars of whatever else could happen should someone intrude on my residence
now if it was known 100% that the perpetrator just wanted property,
let him/her have it, fk cares about property, it can be replaced
but it can never be known, and the fact is, our prisons are filled with irrational, psychotic people,
that do unspeakable things to women & children
sorry, but not my daughter, not if I have a say in the matter
and as long as our Constitution grants us the right to bear arms,
I have a say in the matter

so you rather risk i'd guess a 40/40 chance of dying in a shoot-out with a burglar than the, i'd guess drastically lower chance that an armed child molestor coming to rape your daughter. a daughter which you don't have because theres no-one under 31 in your house remember

[GepperRankins]

No they aren't.

There are some, but your prisons are hardly full of them, and they aren't all into burglaries either.

and if the prisons are filled with them they aren't getting into your house

[Busyman]

Loads of people called you a mentalist.

I think most people can understand why a person would want a gun. They may not agree with it but they can understand why, in a country which has a gun culture they think they also need one.

However to have 6, secreted around your home, then telling us you had all of these other weapons just seems a bit, well mental.

Tell me, did you have all of these weapons before the family came along, or did you just go out and buy them when you had the family to protect.

I bought some when I had a problem with a particular person ...a real nutjob looking for trouble, unlike myself. This person also harassed my mother and I end up staying with her for a time and taught her how to use a gun as well.

I'll just say that in one case I had the bomb squad in my driveway and the robot came and blew up the bomb (when it was xrayed, it was proven to be fake (batteries and nails), but the bomb looked like something from the movie speed, watch and all. Paint was splashed on both houses, tires flattened, death threats, etc.

It came to a head when I caught him at my mother's house splashing paint and when he didn't think I was around (he always did shit when he everyone was gone), so I followed him up the street. I asked him what's going on and he turned and smacked me with a small paint can then jumped back like he was going for a gun in his coat. I had no where to run so I jumped on him. A fight ensued and spilled into the middle of an intersection, he got away, tried to get in his van (conveniently parked away from my mother's house), I kicked the door as he tried to close it, tried to grab him by the legs to pull him out, he reached under the passenger seat, cracked me in the head with hammer, when he hit me, he went off balance, I punched him the nuts then in his eye and threw him outside the van.

Police cam because someone heard us fighting in the intersection and called.

I got treated for tetanus and ironically, all I needed was ice on my head.
Xrays showed no broken bones.

I went to work looking fuuuuuucked up.

He is now off done with jail and probation and still fucking around but now to a lesser degree. He served as his own lawyer at his trial.

Cops told me that I handled myself on the stand better than most cops do.
Frankly, he reminded me of that fucker nutjob that shot up people on a train and served as his own lawyer, a total idiot.

Calling me a mentalist is like being grouped with real mental cases.

I'm just trying to mind my business and be happy. Nothing more.

[fkdup74]

No they aren't.

There are some, but your prisons are hardly full of them, and they aren't all into burglaries either.

hush, you knew what I meant
so "filled" wasnt the right word
but the fact still remains that those evils do exist,
and I will not have my family exposed to them if I can help it

over-protectvie father? yeah, maybe
I plan on meeting her first boyfriend with the afore mentioned .270 Winchester,
and a fair warning of what could happen to his genitalia should anything bad happen to my daughter
but then I always was partial to the saying "better safe than sorry"

[fkdup74]

a daughter which you don't have because theres no-one under 31 in your house remember

[hobbes]

I kicked the door as he tried to close it, tried to grab him by the legs to pull him out, he reached under the passenger seat, cracked me in the head with hammer, when he hit me, he went off balance, I punched him the nuts then in his eye and threw him outside the van.

Police cam because someone heard us fighting in the intersection and called.

I got treated for tetanus and ironically, all I needed was ice on my head.
Xrays showed no broken bones.

And had it been a gun instead of a hammer, you would have been in need of a coffin, not ice.