Exactly...but what convictions?Originally Posted by vidcc
If I had a handgun illegally in the UK should I be precluded from owning one here where it's legal?
What about assault?
I wonder does the UK do the same?
Exactly...but what convictions?Originally Posted by vidcc
If I had a handgun illegally in the UK should I be precluded from owning one here where it's legal?
What about assault?
I wonder does the UK do the same?
Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!
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why disagree?Originally Posted by Busyman
i completely agree. i was under the impression that you were saying in america you should wipe the slate clean or import the whole criminal record.Originally Posted by vidcc
being specific i reckon that with an unneccessery tool designed to kill, people should be presumed guilty until proven innocent
Damn that wasn't very clear.Originally Posted by GepperRankins
I agree, I disagree.
I agree with the Supreme Court and disagree with the opposite notion. SOrry.
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yeah i understood what you said, but you can't just denounce everything a country says as lies because you don't like them much.
This is a tough one but I am leaning towards saying that yes a conviction in the UK should preclude ownership here for the reason that an illegally held gun in the UK would be for criminal reasons. It isn't as if one could hold an illegal gun by accident. If there was a genuine reason to hold the gun it should have been done legitimately.Originally Posted by Busyman
Case by case..... as I said in the uk one can be convicted if it is decided self defence went beyond reasonable force......What about assault?
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
This is what I have a problem with.Originally Posted by vidcc
In the UK, I wouldn't be able to own a handgun. If owned one across the border and brought it over, that's criminal. I would not want that to preclude someone from owning one here. If that was the case then that is essentially exporting UK law here.
Even in assault, a UK court might view assault in a different way thean we do. Felony assault in the UK would preclude me from owning a handgun in the US.
I actually with a case by case basis but problem is there still needs to be concrete law.
I understand the converse as well.
I remember many Cuban refugees were actually criminals in their country turned loose on America ffs. The movie Scarface made reference to something very true.
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I totally disagree.Originally Posted by GepperRankins
Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!
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Agreed but the reason I don't understand what hoopla is with this "any" shit is that it couldn't possibly apply to ANY COURT IN THE WORLD.Originally Posted by GepperRankins
I could get convicted of a crime in a country completely hostile to America.....and then I'll be penalized by uhh America too.
This is why I thank the Supreme Court for having some "common sense".
If we are to recognize other courts when it comes to our laws they should be named specifically.
This shouldn't even have been debatable.
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are you rodding me or did you sell your common sense for some magic beans?Originally Posted by Busyman
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with the assault thing i suppose you have a point, if we are burgled we are allowed to use reasonable force. so if an unarmed burglar breaks in and i beat him to death with a baseball bat, that would be manslaughter. whereas it seems that way of thinking is ok in america, so that charge shouldn't carried over.
with guns though i find it hard to imagine someone in britain with a gun not to be a dickhead
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