Galloway's Senate Showdown

[Rat Faced]

/me directs vidcc to ... "your having a larf"

However, its a truth that a LOT of people do misunderstand the meaning of that phrase... so i took the opening

[GepperRankins]

Why are you fellows still banging on about this?

I furnished you all with the last word a page or two back; only JPaul and Manker seem to realize it...

ahem

[lynx]

ahem

Nope.

Zygote I think.

[JPaul]

Why are you fellows still banging on about this?

I furnished you all with the last word a page or two back; only JPaul and Manker seem to realize it...

Lynx has re-invented the English language. He told you that your definition of the word was incorrect, or at least different from the UK version. Rather strangely he then posted 4 definitions, 3 of which agreed with you as I recall.

He said that it "simply" meant to deny. However he later said that it could have two meanings, one of which was yours. So the "simply" was at best misleading. In fact no, it was pish.

So he has managed to tell you that you were wrong, then proved you were right. However his own proof appears to have little effect on him.

It's quite fascinating to watch someone lose their grip on Reality (ooer missus) like this.

Shall we see what the concise Oxford has to say on the subject.

Refute - Prove falsity or error of (statement, opinion, argument, person advancing it). Rebut or repel by argument.

So please ignore any suggestion that you used the word incorrectly old bean, whether in the US or the UK.

Gepper was correct, he really meant strongly deny.

[lynx]

JPaul.




Never mind, I can't be bothered trying to teach you English any more. You simply aren't worth wasting my time over.

[JPaul]

JPaul.




Never mind, I can't be bothered trying to teach you English any more. You simply aren't worth wasting my time over.

I can try to find you a bigger shovel if you want.

Or are you finished making an arse of yourself.

[Rat Faced]

English is an evolving Language, if someone wishes to maintain and use a word according to its original meaning, then they are merely showing their age.

Originally, to refute something required proof.

This has now been replaced by the meaning of "Strongly Deny" in common usage.

Ergo: Your both correct, just a few decades apart in the common usage of the word.

As I stated earlier, i would use the word to strongly deny something. The burden of proof being on the accuser, not the defender on both sides of the Atlantic at present. Unlike at times in the past.

Unfortunatly, although dictionaries often add meanings as they occur, they dont tend to remove them with as much zealous. This is the cause of a lot of arguments that are meaningless.

When such misunderstandings occur, it would be sensable for all parties to use a different word to describe their position.

I choose the word kangaroo, for the aboriginal meaning... because its late and i've confused myself again.

[Rat Faced]

erm..

I forgot to exclude those words that have a definitive legal definition.

However as these definitions change from country to country, i guess it doesnt matter.

[JPaul]

Flippin heck, my posts are being deleted again.

Quelle surprise.

[Rat Faced]

However as these definitions change from country to country, i guess it doesnt matter.

Ah, yes...the terrible tyranny of the dictionary.

Word definitions have gone the way of weight divisions in boxing-the more, the merrier.

It was bound to happen, too, given so few care even about spelling.

Funny, those who wish to push back the walls which bound what is or is not acceptable are out-anted by yet another cohort who desire the outright elimination of walls...

Dictionaries are now obsolete.

Surely you mean that is the tyranny of the national courts..

As Law needs definitive definitions of words occasionally in order to work, im unsure whether i'd call it a tyranny.

It does however sometimes work to move the language apart between countries... however TV, more than makes up for this in bringing the language together; it is quicker and more popular.... often changing the meanings of words by the context and way they are used on an international scale..... Biatch