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    Quote Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420
    Refute

    1513, "refuse, reject," from L. refutare "drive back, repress, repel, rebut," from re- "back" + -futare "to beat," probably from PIE base *bhat- "to strike down" (cf. beat). Meaning "prove wrong" dates from 1545. Since c.1964 linguists have frowned on the subtle shift in meaning towards "to deny," as it is used in connection with allegation.
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    There you go, US definition.

    Thanks for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lynx
    The UK emphasis is on denial,
    Perhaps in your world, but not in mine, or in the dictionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Feck sake we have an entomologist ( where's mangit)
    I had Chebus down as a cunning linguist but never an etymologist



    Btw - cawk awf, Rodney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manker
    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Feck sake we have an entomologist ( where's mangit)
    I had Chebus down as a cunning linguist but never an etymologist



    Btw - cawk awf, Rodney.
    Curses, foiled by my own smillie.

    Damn you naughty smillie, damn your eyes.

    Particularly the brow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by lynx
    The UK emphasis is on denial,
    Perhaps in your world, but not in mine, or in the dictionary.
    You keep saying this, but provide no evidence from a UK dictionary that this is the case. I've provided evidence that I'm correct (Cambridge University Press if you remember), I'm waiting for you to confute it.
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    I posted the entry from the Concise Oxford.

    Perhaps it was deleted.

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    Was the Oxford English dictionary JP quoted earlier not UKish enough.

    I may read the rest of this thread later.


    Edit: Apologies, I may also start refreshing before I interject.
    Last edited by manker; 05-24-2005 at 06:21 PM.
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    Britannica gives us

    1 : to prove wrong by argument or evidence : show to be false or erroneous
    2 : to deny the truth or accuracy of <refuted the allegations>

    Which would make the requirement of proof the first and therefore main definition.

    It would also make you wrong in what you said to j2.

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    There you go, from earlier

    Shall we see what the concise Oxford has to say on the subject.

    Refute - Prove falsity or error of (statement, opinion, argument, person advancing it). Rebut or repel by argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Britannica
    Oooh, I duno. Sounds a bit foreign to me, finishing with an 'a' like that.

    Have you any thing slightly more British than the Encyclopedia Britannica.
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