Well, I see you've done a great job of vivisection on my last post Busy. Nice crucifiction job to end with too. So, in reply...
So on that point, we agree. There's a first.Originally Posted by Busyman
FOX news does contribute, yes, but US propaganda pops up all over the Aussie media. Of course you couldn't know that, not having access to the Free to air and subscription TV stations, newspapers and radio in Australia.Originally Posted by Busyman
When I say America as a nation, I'm talking about America's national representatives. You know those guys on Capitol Hill? The guys who make all the decisions and press releases and handle world affairs? I've been talking about them all along - not the general population. That was your own kneejerk perception telling you I was tarring everyone with the same brush... and damn, you sure got wound up about it... did you fall over when you stopped?
I know we do. I never said Australia didn't have it's fair share of corporate bastards. Rio Tinto, Newscorp, Santos - unconscionable arseholes, all of 'em.Originally Posted by Busyman
For the US, no, I wasn't harking back to Enron and Worldcom. There's General Electric, Pfizer, Monsanto, DuPont and all the tobacco companies though.
Why is it every time an outspoken American hears something they don't like, they immediately dispute their perceived opponent's morality? Such a tired gambit.Originally Posted by Busyman
What's dignified about any of the programs I mentioned? Where's the integrity in showing some idiot making a fool of himself? Where's the objectivity and the integrity in a spin doctored "news" report? On top of that, untold generations of crap sitcoms, gameshows and infomercials that just insult the intelligence of the viewer. A couple of series of Lost does not make it all better.Originally Posted by Busyman
Oh, and please give the "use logic or STFU" catchphrase a rest will you? It sounds like a bad commercial touting a dodgy constipation cure.
Catchy phrase. Kinda trips off the tongue doesn't it? What happened back when there wasn't a war "goin' on"? Oh yeah... Presidents spreading fear and loathing against communism and building nukes instead. Enough to kill everything on the planet 32 times over, last time I heard. When that was over, it was secret arms deals with third world dictators and South American coke barons.Originally Posted by Busyman
The armed forces, yes. Not the general public though. Automatic and semi-automatic weapons are banned here. There was a national gun buy-back by the government, who destroyed them all after Martin Bryant's killing spree in Port Arthur, Tasmania back in 1996. Only guns left are bolt action rifles for the farmers, and handguns for the Police and gun clubs exclusively. You wouldn't believe what prospective members have to go through to join those clubs...Originally Posted by Busyman
Spindoctoring is reality?? Your reality perhaps - not mine. It's factual obfuscation at the least. Outright lies at the worst. There's no integrity to be gained from deceiving people.Originally Posted by Busyman
Whatever the context, it's still one helluva stretch.Originally Posted by Busyman
There's people like that all over the world. Yes, of course they exist in Australia. But how can you compare that to my dropping 3 pointed words into a forum thread? All I did was raise your ire, then sat back and watched as you worked yourself into a flamespree of libel, bad language and namecalling. You really do need to employ some objectivity, seriously.Originally Posted by Busyman
No, Americans don't need to be killed. But it's happening anyway, and it's a tragedy. What Americans really need is get out of Iraq asap, and let the Iraqi people decide what nation(s) should help them to quell the insurgents, IMHO.Originally Posted by Busyman
Should I be crucified or ridiculed for thinking that?
In your own misguided opinion, perhaps. Once again, we return to the swearing and judgemental name calling. Did you get much froth on the monitor while typing that uninformed little diatribe btw?Originally Posted by Busyman
The truth is, you went off half cocked without knowing my true meaning. You put words in my mouth, then worked yourself up over things that exist in your own head.
Tell you what, come visit Australia. Walk a mile in another man's mukluks. Maybe you'll get a wider point of view and learn not to take things so personally. The exchange rate'll be in your favour...
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