No, it's not...rocket science is less convoluted.Originally Posted by vidcc
It's not rocket science.
All the different colored quotes are impressive, BTW.
Shovel Ready
No, it's not...rocket science is less convoluted.
It's not rocket science.
All the different colored quotes are impressive, BTW.
Last edited by clocker; 06-04-2005 at 02:38 PM.
"I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg
there is no god
So seeing as i am not lobbying to ban them lobbying how am i trying to force them. The only thing i am attempting to do by resisting their attempts at making laws if forcing them to let me live my life by my values not theirs..... And i use no different methods than you use.
So if i am anti freedom of expression by your methods then you are too
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
Fat Secret Agent
No, I fully support your right to try to influence the law.So seeing as i am not lobbying to ban them lobbying how am i trying to force them. The only thing i am attempting to do by resisting their attempts at making laws if forcing them to let me live my life by my values not theirs..... And i use no different methods than you use.
So if i am anti freedom of expression by your methods then you are too
You do not do the same.
This is where we started "..they have no right objecting to anyone else being vaccinated."
They have every right to do just that, you have every right to oppose them.
Last edited by JPaul; 06-04-2005 at 03:44 PM.
there is no god
No, I fully support your right to try to influence the law.
You do not do the same.
This is where we started "..they have no right objecting to anyone else being vaccinated."
They have every right to do just that, you have every right to oppose them.
Yes i don't think they should have a say in my personal life.... i haven't said otherwise, but i have not said i will deny them the right to try....i said i try to deny them success.
you don't believe freedom of expression is absolute.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
Fat Secret Agent
"..they have no right objecting to anyone else being vaccinated."
"but i have not said i will deny them the right to try"
The former says they you do not afford them the right, the later says that you do.
Non Seguitur.
there is no god
I don't believe they have the right to interfere in my personal life...that's an opinion.... if i did i wouldn't try to stop them when they use the freedoms granted to them as a tool to deny freedoms to others. I don't want to end the freedom of lobbying, but because i don't believe they should be trying to interfere in my personal rights i will oppose them and try to deny them success.
That's what everyone does.
The first is an opionion the second an action.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
Fat Secret Agent
No
In the first you said they did not have the right.
In the second you said they did.
That's what's causing confusion. Either that or you have changed your position, which is fair enough.
there is no god
They have no right as in it is none of their buisness, we all know they have the right through freedom of expression.
The reason you get confused is because you pick up on one thing and decide what someone means and no matter how many times it is reworded or rephrased you can't get off the fact that you have decided something. You think it is impossible that you could have misunderstood the first time.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
Fat Secret Agent
Moving away from the point, nice one.
To write something entirely different to what you started with is not re-wroding or re-phrasing. If I misunderstood it is because I took the words to mean what they said. As I have said before, I can only go by what you write.
Perhaps you may accept that sometimes you (or anyone else) do not express your thoughts properly. You will have seen others, including me saying things like "Sorry, my mistake, what I meant was ...." or "My fault, I didn't write that particularly well."
Anyway can you not see the poor logic in your thinking.
1. - It is wrong to try to impose your moral vaues on others.
2. - 1. is a moral value.
3. - So any time you try to stop people imposing a moral value you are imposing a moral value.
there is no god
That's called democracy... it has levels comrade , you have to break eggs to make an omlette(
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
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