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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
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    Anyway can you not see the poor logic in your thinking.

    1. - It is wrong to try to impose your moral vaues on others.

    2. - 1. is a moral value.

    3. - So any time you try to stop people imposing a moral value you are imposing a moral value.
    That's called democracy... it has levels comrade , you have to break eggs to make an omlette(
    That's just drivel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc

    That's called democracy... it has levels comrade , you have to break eggs to make an omlette(
    That's just drivel.
    I'll take your word for that, you put out so much yourself you have to be an expert.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul

    That's just drivel.
    I'll take your word for that, you put out so much yourself you have to be an expert.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    That's called democracy... it has levels comrade , you have to break eggs to make an omlette(
    In the context of this argument, i dislike that expression..

    It brings to mind "the end justifies the means", which i wholley disagree with.

    2 wrongs never make a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat Faced
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    That's called democracy... it has levels comrade , you have to break eggs to make an omlette(
    In the context of this argument, i dislike that expression..

    It brings to mind "the end justifies the means", which i wholley disagree with.

    2 wrongs never make a right.
    so how would you suggest it be handled? Or what phrase would you use? how would you oppose a bill if you believed people shouldn't be forcing you to live by their "values"?.... you can't use the word compromise because the "breaking eggs" phrase is a compromise.

    How would you fight someone that believes freedom should be limited if you believed in freedom for all?.

    or do you think one should just let it happen? I'm for personal freedom for all, but I am for my own personal freedom first... We all compromise in life, we just decide what has the most importance.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    I'd fight it...

    If I lost, i'd ignore it.

    I stated earlier that I ignore Laws I consider unjust or stupid.. and thats my Morality.

    However, as Heinlein stated...

    If the Natives rub blue paint in their belly buttons, then you must too on the surface, or risk being burnt at the stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat Faced
    I'd fight it...

    If I lost, i'd ignore it.

    I stated earlier that I ignore Laws I consider unjust or stupid.. and thats my Morality.

    However, as Heinlein stated...

    If the Natives rub blue paint in their belly buttons, then you must too on the surface, or risk being burnt at the stake.
    Not the best attitude to maintain Law and Order. I know people who think it is their right to travel free on public transport, despite the fact that it no longer exists. To steal from anyone who they think can afford it. Your morality is verging on granting them immunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc

    Despite every post I made you haven't taken one word in. So fire up that brain cell and read.

    I would deny them their wish to make a law such as the thread subject by opposing it. Because I don't want their values forced upon me
    How do we oppose people who try to make laws such as this ?..... We fight the bill, we lobby against the bill. We make our opinions known so that others can see what these people are trying to do. That's how I will "stand in your way" and "deny your right"..it all there for you to see.

    It's not rocket science.
    Well shit fuck piss. That's what EVERYONE has been saying all along (except you)....lobby against what you disagree with.
    Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    The reason you get confused is because you pick up on one thing and decide what someone means and no matter how many times it is reworded or rephrased you can't get off the fact that you have decided something. You think it is impossible that you could have misunderstood the first time.
    Moving away from the point, nice one.

    To write something entirely different to what you started with is not re-wroding or re-phrasing. If I misunderstood it is because I took the words to mean what they said. As I have said before, I can only go by what you write.

    Perhaps you may accept that sometimes you (or anyone else) do not express your thoughts properly. You will have seen others, including me saying things like "Sorry, my mistake, what I meant was ...." or "My fault, I didn't write that particularly well."

    Anyway can you not see the poor logic in your thinking.

    1. - It is wrong to try to impose your moral vaues on others.

    2. - 1. is a moral value.

    3. - So any time you try to stop people imposing a moral value you are imposing a moral value.
    As I thought..way back...vid's posts were clusterfucks.
    Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Well shit fuck piss. That's what EVERYONE has been saying all along (except you)....lobby against what you disagree with.

    Rubbish.....i've said that all along, you just had your head so far up jpauls ass you couldn't see it.


    Quote Originally Posted by jpaulsbitch
    As I thought..way back...vid's posts were clusterfucks.
    you haven't got an original thought in that brain cell have you. I already answered that

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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