A moral too far ?

[vidcc]

A vaccine has been developed that could reduce the risk of cervical cancer by 70-80%...... good news? I think so. But there are those that wish to stop this vaccine entering service. WHY? because they say it will encourage sexual activity.

Is there a point where lifestyle moral values should overrule medical cures? Will these people object to a cure for aids? I do wonder if cures for such diseases that often carry a social stigma are being held back because of moral values.

It's ok to have moral values....just don't try to force them on others.

Some links about the issue (I couldn't find the story on the frc site)

new scientist

the nation ( biased ) magazine

crossfire

[MagicNakor]

Considering no one knows the *cause* of cervical cancer, and I have heard of women who've never had sex to be diagnosed with it, I'd politely tell the naysayers to stuff it. No one deserves to be diagnosed with either cancer or AIDS, irrespective of their sexual proclivities and frequencies.

Hopefully that makes a bit of sense...I really ought to stop coming here after work.

[MCHeshPants420]

So we should keep cancer in the world to keep people chaste? Brilliant.

I say vaccinate everyone who wants to be vaccinated and then stay the fuck out of their bedroom. (Unless you're sleeping with them I guess...)

No one deserves to be diagnosed with either cancer or AIDS, irrespective of their sexual proclivities and frequencies.

Hopefully that makes a bit of sense...I really ought to stop coming here after work.

Makes perfect sense to me.

[GepperRankins]

we should stop neo-cons from having any medical help at all until they accept this

[Rat Faced]

You dont have to kill embryo's to get stem cells from them.

The Law Lords in the UK have already decided there was nothing wrong with one couple that wished to have a "designer baby".. not because they wished for a superchild etc; but because they wished to take stem cells from the embryo in order to cure the embryo's older sibling.

The embryo would then carry on to term as the couples second child.

Saying that the only way to have "Embryionic Stem Cell Research" is to kill the embryo or use frozen ones before discarding shows one thing.. The Pres of the USA doesnt know what the fuck he's talking about.

But whats new there?

This is exactly the same thing... denying Research and Medicines that would save lives, because of personal Moral feelings.

I assume that, if taken ill, those resonsible for these decisions will make full use of the medications available for themselves. Despite the fact that a lot of that Medical Knowledge was made through Grave Robbing and Murder in the past, Nazi experiments in WWII and in numerous other unsavory ways.

Hypocracy... let them use leeches for all their ailments.

If these people had their way through history, we'd still believe that a Wolves Penis eaten at midnight on a full moon is the cure for warts or some other such foolishness.

Therefore, lets treat their medical ailments the way that the Greeks or Romans would have done... wonder if they'll change their minds then?

[sArA]

@RF.. you nearly threw me then, almost ready to move your post to the 'stem cell research thread'...then...halfway down....ohhhhhh yeeeaaaahhhh...I seeeee using it as an example of moral bigotry...ah...I get it now...



Phew.....

[vidcc]

there is a stem cell research thread ????

[JPaul]

Considering no one knows the *cause* of cervical cancer, and I have heard of women who've never had sex to be diagnosed with it, I'd politely tell the naysayers to stuff it. No one deserves to be diagnosed with either cancer or AIDS, irrespective of their sexual proclivities and frequencies.

Hopefully that makes a bit of sense...I really ought to stop coming here after work.

Good speech, I agree.

However I also agree that if people feel strongly that something is wrong then they have the right (perhaps duty in their eyes) to say it.

Freedom of expression and all that. As Tony Benn said "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" (Paraphrase).

[JPaul]

If these people had their way through history, we'd still believe that a Wolves Penis eaten at midnight on a full moon is the cure for warts or some other such foolishness.

Unless you have actually tried this how do you know it is foolishness.

Please stop offending the boards wiccans, I thought you knew better than that.

[bigboab]

You dont have to kill embryo's to get stem cells from them.

The Law Lords in the UK have already decided there was nothing wrong with one couple that wished to have a "designer baby".. not because they wished for a superchild etc; but because they wished to take stem cells from the embryo in order to cure the embryo's older sibling.

The embryo would then carry on to term as the couples second child.

Saying that the only way to have "Embryionic Stem Cell Research" is to kill the embryo or use frozen ones before discarding shows one thing.. The Pres of the USA doesnt know what the fuck he's talking about.

But whats new there?

This is exactly the same thing... denying Research and Medicines that would save lives, because of personal Moral feelings.

I assume that, if taken ill, those resonsible for these decisions will make full use of the medications available for themselves. Despite the fact that a lot of that Medical Knowledge was made through Grave Robbing and Murder in the past, Nazi experiments in WWII and in numerous other unsavory ways.

Hypocracy... let them use leeches for all their ailments.

If these people had their way through history, we'd still believe that a Wolves Penis eaten at midnight on a full moon is the cure for warts or some other such foolishness.

Therefore, lets treat their medical ailments the way that the Greeks or Romans would have done... wonder if they'll change their minds then?

Let us not forget the society for the preservation of Leeches.