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    Smith's Avatar Since 1989.. BT Rep: +1
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    I know its pointless, but i was wondering what he best AGPx4 graphics cards i can get is.

    Thanks

    Edit, my bad, Apg x4
    Last edited by Smith; 06-06-2005 at 08:56 PM.

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    Most AGP 8x cards will also run on 4x motherboards. You need to check what voltage you mobo will work at and compare that to the card, but other than that I don't foresee a problem.

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    i think ALL video cards will work on 4x AGP

    isnt it backwards compatible? (they might run a little slower, but not enough to notice)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm
    isnt it backwards compatible? (they might run a little slower, but not enough to notice)
    Unfortunately not.

    Motherboards
    Original AGP1.0 boards use 3.3v logic and signalling and aren't really compatible with anything else. 1x and 2x and 3.3v keyed.
    AGP2.0 uses 1.5V logic and signalling. 1x, 2x and 4x and 1.5V keyed.
    Next come Universal AGP mobos which supports 3.3v and 1.5v so you can use AGP1.0 and AGP2.0 cards in these boards. 1x, 2x and 4x, no keys.
    Next is AGP3.0 with 1.5V logic and 0.8v signalling. 4x and 8x only, 1.5v keyed.
    Then there's Universal 1.5v AGP3.0 mobos. These can detect the difference between AGP2.0 and AGP3.0 cards and run in the appropriate mode. 1x, 2x and 4x (AGP2.0 mode), 4x and 8x (AGP3.0 mode), 1.5v keyed.
    Finally there's Universal AGP3.0 mobos which can detect and run in any mode, any speed, not keyed. Not sure if any of these have been commercially produced.

    Cards
    There are also 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 and various universal cards with slots to match their corresponding keys. This generally means if you can fit the card to the board it won't blow it up, but does not ensure it will work.

    If you've got a 4x mobo it will be AGP2.0 in which case you can't use cards which are AGP3.0 only.

    What you need is a Universal 1.5v AGP3.0 card. They are 1.5v slotted and will run in AGP2.0 mode in a corresponding mobo or AGP3.0 mode in a AGP3.0 board.

    I once tried getting this info about Ati cards, they neither they nor the Ati card builders seem to think it is important whether it is compatible with your system, but I happen to know that some of their top end cards are AGP3.0 only. That situation does not seem to have improved.

    I've also tried getting the compatibility info about Nvidia cards. It used to be fairly easy, but since AGP is now on the way out there seems to be less and less info available.

    Look for cards which specify 4x or 8x speeds. If that's what it says then it should work. If it doesn't then it is their fault for mis-specifying so they shouldn't charge a restocking fee.
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    I think my Geforce 6600gt supported 2-8x agp, at least on paper, can't check how it's keyed as it's being repaired atm tho'.

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    This is the sort of specification you need to look for:
    http://www.aopen.nl/products/vga/Aeolus6800-DV128.htm
    Notice the AGP generation says 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 which means it is a universal AGP card. Also signal voltages are 0.8, 1.5 and 3.3

    Compare that to the 6600GT which says AGP 3.0 only:
    http://www.aopen.nl/products/vga/Aeo...T-DV128AGP.htm
    Yet it says 1.5v signalling which is AGP2.0

    Then there's the 5200 which also says AGP3.0 only:
    http://www.aopen.nl/products/vga/AeolusFX5200-DV256.htm
    But this one says signal voltages are 0.8, 1.5 and 3.3 which is universal.

    Confused yet? I sure am.

    Edit: just noticed you've only got $50 so you can't afford any of them.
    Stop wasting our time.
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    @Lynx, your tryin too hard!! lol

    I wouldnt recommend a 5200 to anyone cuz there shite(I have one)
    The ATI 9600XT isnt a bad card for 4x AGP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkin Park
    @Lynx, your tryin too hard!! lol

    I wouldnt recommend a 5200 to anyone cuz there shite(I have one)
    The ATI 9600XT isnt a bad card for 4x AGP.
    Well it would depend on the rest of the system. No use installing a good card on a system that won't be able keep up.

    If the board only supports AGP 4X then I suspect it might not be worth getting a 9600XT.

    @TheCanuk... Post the rest of the computer specs please.

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    Alrite heres my system summary. It would seem i have an agp x2 mobo, so why do i have an agpx4 card?

    Computer:
    Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    OS Service Pack -
    Internet Explorer 6.0.2600.0000 (IE 6.0 - Windows XP)
    DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
    Computer Name KIDSCOMP
    User Name Andrew

    Motherboard:
    CPU Type Intel Pentium IIIE, 800 MHz (6 x 133)
    Motherboard Name Shuttle AV11 (2 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM)
    Motherboard Chipset VIA VT82C693A Apollo Pro133
    System Memory 384 MB (SDRAM)
    BIOS Type Award Modular (06/19/00)
    Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
    Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
    Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)

    Display:
    Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200 (32 MB)
    3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200
    Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 750(M)s(T) [17" CRT] (HCEN850562)

    Multimedia:
    Audio Adapter Ensoniq ES1371 AudioPCI-97 Sound Card

    Storage:
    IDE Controller VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
    SCSI/RAID Controller D347PRT SCSI Controller
    Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
    Disk Drive HDS722580VLAT20 (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
    Optical Drive ATAPI CD-RW 48X16 (48x/16x CD-RW)
    Optical Drive DVD-ROM
    Optical Drive Generic DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device
    SMART Hard Disks Status OK

    Partitions:
    C: (NTFS) 78528 MB (41473 MB free)

    Input:
    Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse HID-compliant mouse

    Network:
    Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC (192.168.2.10)

    Peripherals:
    Printer Okidata OL-600e
    USB1 Controller VIA VT82C596B Integrated USB Controller
    USB Device Logitech QuickCam Express
    USB Device USB Human Interface Device




    Memory Controller Properties:
    Error Detection Method None
    Error Correction Single-bit
    Supported Memory Interleave 4-Way
    Current Memory Interleave 1-Way
    Supported Memory Speeds 70ns, 60ns
    Supported Memory Types SPM, FPM, EDO, Parity, ECC, SIMM, DIMM, SDRAM
    Supported Memory Voltages 5V, 3.3V
    Maximum Memory Module Size 256 MB
    Memory Slots 3

    [ Processors / Pentium III ]

    Processor Properties:
    Manufacturer Intel
    Version Pentium III
    External Clock 133 MHz
    Maximum Clock 800 MHz
    Current Clock 800 MHz
    Type Central Processor
    Voltage 3.3 V
    Status Enabled
    Upgrade Slot 1
    Socket Designation SLOT 1

    [ Caches / Internal Cache ]

    Cache Properties:
    Type Internal
    Status Enabled
    Operational Mode Write-Back
    Maximum Size 32 KB
    Installed Size 32 KB
    Supported SRAM Type Synchronous
    Current SRAM Type Synchronous
    Socket Designation Internal Cache

    [ Caches / External Cache ]

    Cache Properties:
    Type External
    Status Enabled
    Operational Mode Write-Back
    Maximum Size 2048 KB
    Installed Size 256 KB
    Supported SRAM Type Synchronous
    Current SRAM Type Synchronous
    Socket Designation External Cache

    [ Memory Modules / BANK_0 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Socket Designation BANK_0
    Type DIMM, SDRAM
    Speed 70 ns
    Installed Size 128 MB
    Enabled Size 128 MB

    [ Memory Modules / BANK_1 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Socket Designation BANK_1
    Type DIMM, SDRAM
    Speed 70 ns
    Installed Size 256 MB
    Enabled Size 256 MB

    [ Memory Modules / BANK_2 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Socket Designation BANK_2
    Speed 70 ns
    Installed Size Not Installed
    Enabled Size Not Installed

    [ Memory Devices / BANK_0 ]

    Memory Device Properties:
    Form Factor DIMM
    Type EDRAM
    Size 128 MB
    Device Locator BANK_0
    Bank Locator Bank0/1

    [ Memory Devices / BANK_1 ]

    Memory Device Properties:
    Form Factor DIMM
    Type EDRAM
    Size 256 MB
    Device Locator BANK_1
    Bank Locator Bank2/3

    [ Memory Devices / BANK_2 ]

    Memory Device Properties:
    Form Factor DIMM
    Type EDRAM
    Device Locator BANK_2
    Bank Locator Bank4/5

    [ System Slots / ISA ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation ISA
    Type ISA
    Data Bus Width 16-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / ISA ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation ISA
    Type ISA
    Data Bus Width 16-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / PCI ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation PCI
    Type PCI
    Usage Empty
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / PCI ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation PCI
    Type PCI
    Usage In Use
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / PCI ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation PCI
    Type PCI
    Usage Empty
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / PCI ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation PCI
    Type PCI
    Usage In Use
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / PCI ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation PCI
    Type PCI
    Usage Empty
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ System Slots / AGP ]

    System Slot Properties:
    Slot Designation AGP
    Type AGP
    Usage Empty
    Data Bus Width 32-bit
    Length Long

    [ Port Connectors / PRIMARY IDE ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator PRIMARY IDE
    Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / SECONDARY IDE ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Internal Reference Designator SECONDARY IDE
    Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / FDD ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type 8251 FIFO Compatible
    Internal Reference Designator FDD
    Internal Connector Type On-Board Floppy
    External Connector Type None

    [ Port Connectors / COM1 ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Serial Port 16450 Compatible
    Internal Reference Designator COM1
    Internal Connector Type 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
    External Connector Type DB-9 pin male

    [ Port Connectors / COM2 ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Serial Port 16450 Compatible
    Internal Reference Designator COM2
    Internal Connector Type 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
    External Connector Type DB-9 pin male

    [ Port Connectors / LPT1 ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Parallel Port ECP/EPP
    Internal Reference Designator LPT1
    Internal Connector Type DB-25 pin female
    External Connector Type DB-25 pin female

    [ Port Connectors / Keyboard ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Keyboard Port
    Internal Reference Designator Keyboard
    External Connector Type PS/2

    [ Port Connectors / No Detected ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type Mouse Port
    Internal Reference Designator PS/2 Mouse
    Internal Connector Type PS/2
    External Reference Designator No Detected
    External Connector Type PS/2

    [ Port Connectors / USB ]

    Port Connector Properties:
    Port Type USB
    Internal Reference Designator USB
    Internal Connector Type None


    --------[ Overclock ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    CPU Properties:
    CPU Type Intel Pentium IIIE
    CPU Alias Coppermine, CuMine, A80526
    CPU Stepping cB0
    CPUID Revision 00000683h

    CPU Speed:
    CPU Clock 797.93 MHz (original: 800 MHz)
    CPU Multiplier 6.0x
    CPU FSB 132.99 MHz (original: 133 MHz)
    Memory Bus 132.99 MHz

    CPU Cache:
    L1 Code Cache 16 KB
    L1 Data Cache 16 KB
    L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)

    Motherboard Properties:
    Motherboard ID 06/19/2000-693-596-W977-2A6LGH2AC-00
    Motherboard Name Shuttle AV11 (2 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM)

    Chipset Properties:
    Motherboard Chipset VIA VT82C693A Apollo Pro133

    SPD Memory Modules:
    DIMM1: 16MX64E-133.8MX8 128 MB PC133 SDRAM (3.0-4-4-6 @ 133 MHz) (2.0-3-3-5 @ 100 MHz)
    DIMM2: Apacer Tech. 256 MB PC133 SDRAM (3.0-3-3-6 @ 133 MHz)

    BIOS Properties:
    System BIOS Date 06/19/00
    Video BIOS Date 03/14/01
    Award BIOS Type Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
    Award BIOS Message (AV11S835) VIA Apollo Pro PCISet
    DMI BIOS Version 4.51 PG

    Graphics Processor Properties:
    DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
    Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200
    GPU Code Name NV11 (AGP 4x 10DE / 0111, Rev B2)
    GPU Clock 200 MHz
    Memory Clock 150 MHz


    --------[ Power Management ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Power Management Properties:
    Current Power Source AC Line
    Battery Status No Battery
    Full Battery Lifetime Unknown
    Remaining Battery Lifetime Unknown


    --------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Sensor Properties:
    Sensor Type HDD
    Sensor Access SMART

    Temperatures:
    Hitachi HDS722580VLAT20/a 18 C (64 F)
    Hitachi HDS722580VLAT20/b 32 C (90 F)


    --------[ CPU ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    CPU Properties:
    CPU Type Intel Pentium IIIE, 800 MHz (6 x 133)
    CPU Alias Coppermine, CuMine, A80526
    CPU Stepping cB0
    Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE
    Original Clock 800 MHz
    L1 Code Cache 16 KB
    L1 Data Cache 16 KB
    L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)

    CPU Physical Info:
    Package Type 370 Pin FC-PGA
    Package Size 4.95 cm x 4.95 cm
    Transistors 28.1 million
    Process Technology 6M, 0.18 um, CMOS
    Die Size 104 mm2
    Core Voltage 1.60 / 1.65 V
    I/O Voltage 3.3 V
    Typical Power 11 - 25 W (depending on clock speed)
    Maximum Power 16.0 - 37.5 W (depending on clock speed)

    CPU Manufacturer:
    Company Name Intel Corporation
    Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm

    CPU Utilization:
    CPU #1 100 %


    --------[ CPUID ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    CPUID Properties:
    CPUID Manufacturer GenuineIntel
    CPUID Revision 00000683h
    IA Brand ID 02h (Intel Pentium III)
    Platform ID 05h (Socket 370)
    IA CPU Serial Number Unknown
    HTT / CMP Units 0 / 0

    Instruction Set:
    64-bit x86 Extension Not Supported
    AMD 3DNow! Not Supported
    AMD 3DNow! Professional Not Supported
    AMD Enhanced 3DNow! Not Supported
    AMD Extended MMX Not Supported
    Cyrix Extended MMX Not Supported
    IA-64 Not Supported
    IA MMX Supported
    IA SSE Supported
    IA SSE 2 Not Supported
    IA SSE 3 Not Supported
    CLFLUSH Instruction Not Supported
    CMPXCHG8B Instruction Supported
    CMPXCHG16B Instruction Not Supported
    Conditional Move Instruction Supported
    FEMMS Instruction Not Supported
    MONITOR / MWAIT Instruction Not Supported

    CPUID Features:
    36-bit Page Size Extension Supported
    Advanced Cryptography Engine Not Supported
    Alternate Instruction Set


    --------[ PCI / AGP Video ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    nVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200 Video Adapter
    nVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200 3D Accelerator


    --------[ GPU ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Graphics Processor Properties:
    Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200
    GPU Code Name NV11
    PCI Device 10DE / 0111
    Transistors 19 million
    Process Technology 0.18u
    Bus Type AGP 4x
    Memory Size 32 MB
    GPU Clock 200 MHz
    RAMDAC Clock 350 MHz
    Pixel Pipelines 2
    TMU Per Pipeline 2
    Vertex Shaders Not Supported
    Pixel Shaders 1 (v0.5)
    DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v7.0
    Pixel Fillrate 400 MPixel/s
    Texel Fillrate 800 MTexel/s

    Memory Bus Properties:
    Bus Type SDR
    Bus Width 64-bit
    Real Clock 150 MHz
    Effective Clock 150 MHz
    Bandwidth 1200 MB/s

    Graphics Processor Manufacturer:
    Company Name NVIDIA Corporation
    Product Information http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=products
    Driver Download http://www.nvidia.com/drivers

    nVIDIA Registers:
    nv-000000 011100B2
    nv-100000 00000000
    nv-100200 08C10100
    nv-10020C 02000000
    nv-101000 803BD447
    nv-680500 00000E01
    nv-680504 00001501
    nv-680570 00000000
    nv-680574 00000000
    nv-68057C 00000000


    --------[ Monitor ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    [ Samsung SyncMaster 750(M)s(T) ]

    Monitor Properties:
    Monitor Name Samsung SyncMaster 750(M)s(T)
    Monitor ID SAM1057
    Monitor Type 17" CRT
    Manufacture Date Week 35 / 2000
    Serial Number HCEN850562
    Max. Visible Display Size 32 cm x 24 cm (15.7")
    Picture Aspect Ratio 4:3
    Horizontal Frequency 30 - 70 kHz
    Vertical Frequency 50 - 160 Hz
    Maximum Resolution 1280 x 1024
    Gamma 2.26
    DPMS Mode Support Standby, Suspend, Active-Off

    Supported Video Modes:
    640 x 480 135 Hz
    800 x 600 110 Hz
    1024 x 768 85 Hz
    1152 x 864 75 Hz
    1280 x 1024 65 Hz

    What do u guys think, i just want to give a performance boost, to hold off buying a new comp for a month or 2.

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    Your better off just buying a new comp.

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