War of the Worlds

[Peerzy]

Yup, quick run off into the ball of flames and hundreds of tripod aliens, as long as you love America it's fine

[3RA1N1AC]

6/10 - Nothing more than a pro-american special effects fest.

sounds like a roland emmerich movie.

i'll prolly see it eventually, despite being lukewarm to cruise and spielberg (they've both done some good movies, but... EH). 'cause i'm a genre junkie and will give most anything a chance if it has decent rayguns or a werewolf. howzzit compare to, say, Independence Day re: amount of cliche, syrupy patriotism, entertainment value, etc... can i expect it to be better or worse than that one? is it just resting on its literary credentials, or what. ?:|

[MCHeshPants420]

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Why did Spielburg have to change the story with the aliens already having their machines on Earth. Like I think Busyman pointed out they'd have been noticed by someone. Also if they have the technology to beam themselves across space in lightning, set up tripods from space you have to think they'd have picked up on bacteria.

All I can think is that their governement was a bit tight-ass like ours and wouldn't provide full military gear for its soldiers.

Whilst we're on those lines why the hell was Europe hit the hardest? Do you hate us that much? From a military point of view (and these aliens have been watching us for all this time with envious eyes so you'd think they'd have a decent plan) they should be attacking the country with the biggest army and most nukes the hardest...

Making the aliens have those stupid impenetrable shields from the crappy 50's movie sucked as well. Make them like the novels war machines and have them hard to bring down but possible. Then we could have had the "Thunderchild" scene. That would have rocked. Instead we just get a ferry being turned over.

The main problem of this movie, was of course, the fact that we are just seeing the story from TC's eyes. The novel does this as well but rather than that character being central to the plot he is more there to be an observer to destruction of the world. Perhaps that doesn't work too well as a film, we need character development, but Spielburg swung too hard in that direction methinks.

I gave it 6/10 at IMDB. It's not much cop. Though, there have been two other WOTW films released this year which I've seen and they were truely awful. So if you only watch one War of the Worlds movie this year make it Spielburgs.

[cpt_azad]

6/10 - Nothing more than a pro-american special effects fest.

sounds like a roland emmerich movie.

i'll prolly see it eventually, despite being lukewarm to cruise and spielberg (they've both done some good movies, but... EH). 'cause i'm a genre junkie and will give most anything a chance if it has decent rayguns or a werewolf. howzzit compare to, say, Independence Day re: amount of cliche, syrupy patriotism, entertainment value, etc... can i expect it to be better or worse than that one? is it just resting on its literary credentials, or what. ?:|

This one's not as patriotic as Independence Day (duh) or most Emmerich films, but it does kinda take a page from the "America is better than you so STFU and GTFO cuz we're the only ones that can destroy these alien dudes" despite the fact that we're insignificant to these aliens as they will kill any human and that the Japanese have already taken down a few. (meh so i said japanese, oh noes i've violated a spoiler law or some BS like that).

It's a good movie all round, especially the starting and the middle parts, the ending just plain sucked (way too rushed). The audio (keyword here is audio) and special fx are top-notch. But it all kinda boils down to how you like your movies, I'd check this one out if I were you then you can let us know what you think, every one has an opinion.

[MCHeshPants420]

and that the Japanese have already taken down a few. (meh so i said japanese, oh noes i've violated a spoiler law or some BS like that).

Obviously the Japanese had help from Godzilla and those giant robots they seem to love so much.

It's a good movie all round, especially the starting and the middle parts, the ending just plain sucked (way too rushed).

You are kind of contradicting yourself in that sentence.

[the mighty]

I just got back from seeing this film, and I thought it was amazing! Not having read the book or seen the old film, I wasn't disapointed with any of it. Sure, it ran out of steam near the end, but the rest had been so enjoyable I didn't really care!

[Busyman]

I don't know the where some of you get this American patriotic stuff from besides the fact our military is fighting them. ID4 had this big time but with this movie, it's was pretty much nonexistent.

....and wtf is wrong with some of you? Ya got an inferiority complex or sumthin'?

If the movie takes place in America it doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't matter. IT MEANS THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN AMERICA. I didn't feel slighted 'cause the aliens didn't blow up the White House.

Get a fucking life.

It's an American made movie ffs. A European company could have bought the rights and made set the movie in the small village of WelshChesHorshire for all I care and I doubt Americans would have given a shit.

Btw, shields were mentioned in a news broadcast of something early in the movie.

And after all this....

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1. Cruise's ex-wife's brownstone was conveniently immaculate.

2. The things were in the ground all this fucking time like fucking cicadas. So no one noticed a huge hulking metal mass...phone company, water and sewer, construction folk?

3. The aliens looked like the one's from ID4.

4. The son should have been dead...if just for his stupidity alone...and the fact that our military got there ass engulfed by a huge fireball...and uh..he was with 'em.

5. Why would Tom NOT talk to his son, daughter, and especially the mechanic about the impending disaster...it's fucking stupid.

6. I knew the son was going to fuck up when it was his turn to drive. If he saw a rack of people, he should have turned his ass around. Tom should have run over the lady and her kid. He also should have picked up his gun.

7. Kudos for Tom killing Shawshank (really ) but conveniently leaving his daughter alone while alien eyes prowl about.
There ya go.

8. Kudos for also assuming you can go to sleep with no one keeping watch simply because the aliens came in the basement before. They couldn't possibly come again. They already checked and they said, "All clear".

9. The machines had not one but two asshole sphincters. However they were gay alien machines 'cause they liked it one way and that way was inward. They practically ate with their ass...es.

10. I'll say it. His daughter was a dipshit. If you get scared, you don't run upstairs to where the aliens are. When you do shit like that, you get yourself and you father placed in an alien rectum.

11. If there's an alien invasion, you don't stop to conversate with an old fuck partner. You get on the damn boat. Fucking may proceed after which you avoid being vaporized.

12. How many fucking times...during an alien invasion does a motherfucker have to point up to the sky (you know...where the aliens are) for a trained soldier to take a look (you know....follow the pointing finger). "Look at the birds...ya dipshit. L-O-O-K U-P.......YESYES..U-P YA DIPSHIT!!!".

13. They shat/bled Fanta Orange....or was it SunKist? Everytime a tripod was shot or had diarrhea, I got thirsty.

14. Btw, it was mighhhhhhty convenient that when Tom was driving his minivan...past everyone else that was stranded on the road..he had a nice, however winding, clear path to ease on down the road.

This also occured after the Donnie Darko/FirstEpisodeLost moment. He just drove away...debris nicely parted for him like a bad haircut.

....the movie was still good besides the fact...it actually should have been more focused on blowing shit up but I think they wanted to utilize Tom Cruise more in the acting department.

I love the scene where all the clothes are falling out of the sky btw.

[Fake Shemp]

It's an American made movie ffs. A European company could have bought the rights and made set the movie in the small village of WelshChesHorshire for all I care and I doubt Americans would have given a shit.

Actually no-one has to buy the rights as the novel is in the public domain. This is evidenced by the fact that we have two other films released this year of War of the Worlds. One being set in London at the time the novel was based, it is dire beyond belief though. There is even an animated version of Jeff Wayne's coming out next year.

I have no problem with Spielburg's film being set in America at all, and I'm sure HG Wells would have approved of it being set in the world's most industrialized country. I reckon if Wells was with us now he'd have wanted the film "more focused on blowing shit up", if only for his dislike of industrialization.

The throwaway comment about Europe being hit the hardest is kind of funny. If I was an alien invader I'd have left the Europeans until last, after all they'd (the Europeans) would have been trying to find a peaceful solution to the invasion...

"If we just maintain sanctions on the aliens we can resolve this conflict peacefully..." - French/German diplomat.

[Busyman]

It's an American made movie ffs. A European company could have bought the rights and made set the movie in the small village of WelshChesHorshire for all I care and I doubt Americans would have given a shit.

Actually no-one has to buy the rights as the novel is in the public domain. This is evidenced by the fact that we have two other films released this year of War of the Worlds. One being set in London at the time the novel was based, it is dire beyond belief though. There is even an animated version of Jeff Wayne's coming out next year.

I have no problem with Spielburg's film being set in America at all, and I'm sure HG Wells would have approved of it being set in the world's most industrialized country. I reckon if Wells was with us now he'd have wanted the film "more focused on blowing shit up", if only for his dislike of industrialization.

The throwaway comment about Europe being hit the hardest is kind of funny. If I was an alien invader I'd have left the Europeans until last, after all they'd (the Europeans) would have been trying to find a peaceful solution to the invasion...

.....as they get vaporized leaving only their shirt with no mark of underarm deodorant to speak of.

Well shit if there are 2 movies set in Europe, maybe they can say America gets hit hardest and we can get all bent of out shape about it.

[Peerzy]

I don't know the where some of you get this American patriotic stuff from besides the fact our military is fighting them. ID4 had this big time but with this movie, it's was pretty much nonexistent.

....and wtf is wrong with some of you? Ya got an inferiority complex or sumthin'?

If the movie takes place in America it doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't matter. IT MEANS THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN AMERICA. I didn't feel slighted 'cause the aliens didn't blow up the White House.

Get a fucking life.

It's an American made movie ffs. A European company could have bought the rights and made set the movie in the small village of WelshChesHorshire for all I care and I doubt Americans would have given a shit.

Btw, shields were mentioned in a news broadcast of something early in the movie.

And after all this....

Spoiler: Show

1. Cruise's ex-wife's brownstone was conveniently immaculate.

2. The things were in the ground all this fucking time like fucking cicadas. So no one noticed a huge hulking metal mass...phone company, water and sewer, construction folk?

3. The aliens looked like the one's from ID4.

4. The son should have been dead...if just for his stupidity alone...and the fact that our military got there ass engulfed by a huge fireball...and uh..he was with 'em.

5. Why would Tom NOT talk to his son, daughter, and especially the mechanic about the impending disaster...it's fucking stupid.

6. I knew the son was going to fuck up when it was his turn to drive. If he saw a rack of people, he should have turned his ass around. Tom should have run over the lady and her kid. He also should have picked up his gun.

7. Kudos for Tom killing Shawshank (really ) but conveniently leaving his daughter alone while alien eyes prowl about.
There ya go.

8. Kudos for also assuming you can go to sleep with no one keeping watch simply because the aliens came in the basement before. They couldn't possibly come again. They already checked and they said, "All clear".

9. The machines had not one but two asshole sphincters. However they were gay alien machines 'cause they liked it one way and that way was inward. They practically ate with their ass...es.

10. I'll say it. His daughter was a dipshit. If you get scared, you don't run upstairs to where the aliens are. When you do shit like that, you get yourself and you father placed in an alien rectum.

11. If there's an alien invasion, you don't stop to conversate with an old fuck partner. You get on the damn boat. Fucking may proceed after which you avoid being vaporized.

12. How many fucking times...during an alien invasion does a motherfucker have to point up to the sky (you know...where the aliens are) for a trained soldier to take a look (you know....follow the pointing finger). "Look at the birds...ya dipshit. L-O-O-K U-P.......YESYES..U-P YA DIPSHIT!!!".

13. They shat/bled Fanta Orange....or was it SunKist? Everytime a tripod was shot or had diarrhea, I got thirsty.

14. Btw, it was mighhhhhhty convenient that when Tom was driving his minivan...past everyone else that was stranded on the road..he had a nice, however winding, clear path to ease on down the road.

This also occured after the Donnie Darko/FirstEpisodeLost moment. He just drove away...debris nicely parted for him like a bad haircut.

....the movie was still good besides the fact...it actually should have been more focused on blowing shit up but I think they wanted to utilize Tom Cruise more in the acting department.

I love the scene where all the clothes are falling out of the sky btw.

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Thing is, no other country exists in the movie. It would be like the movie Pearl Harbor but insted of bombing Japan, they bomb a different part of America cause they got lost, and then America fights back against....America

Also they changed the location dramatically. It would be like taking Lord Of The Flies and setting it in New York.

The kid also wants to be a patriotic hero and goes off into the big ball of fire to fight and die, only you find out at the end thats not the case and he magically knew where his mum was and such.

What happend in Europe? What happened in Aisa? What happened in Africa? What happened in South America? What happened in Oceania? All you get to see is the story of one invinceable man sit in some cave for 20 minutes then come out and America has won the war pritty much.

It's stupid that just because its an American film, means the whole story has to have American values, all the actors have to be American, the settings have to be American, there can be no anti-American views in the film and so on.