Stealth

[manker]

I'd love to see that vid - no shit

Btw, I pronounce arse like this: r-sss

r = the letter 'r' or the word 'are'

ss = like wot a snake does.

Not 'oss'

[Adster]

worst movie ever

[Busyman]

@busy: Actually, I don't think you get what I'm saying, or that you are being dense on purpose.


The scenes from the rest of the world were only there to show how helpless the rest of the world was. The entire thing is written to make Americans feel good about america.

And the speech, it's stupid, pointless, and ultra-patriotic.

Now, I don't fucking care if you thought it was good, or if you like other unlikely nonsense, I'm not even making a value statement about what I think about american patriotism in movies (I do have a problem if it's done at the expense of the rest of the world, tho').

What I'm saying is that ID4 is ultra-patriotic, and that it glorifies America, it even goes so far as to turn america into some kind of savior for all of mankind.

Oh yeah, and it's very obvious in this, and that it's badly written.

I don't have an inferiority complex, but I think you might. Trying to make this about America (trying to tell people what to do, or whatever), and not crappy patriotic movies


'k, thanks, now shut the hell up.

Here's the thing (oh damn, forgot to STHU ).

ID4 does suck. I said it did (besides the beginning).

You do have an inferiority complex.

The scenes of rest of world are just like one's in America....aliens blowing LANDMARKS up and not about making foreign countries look bad ya nutjob.

America is fighting a war smartguy. There's like a whole military thing going on and what not.

The entire movie was written to make money. I didn't walk away feeling good about America.

I was glad that they kicked the aliens ass with a Windows virus, a crop duster, and I could leave the theater.

[Adster]

also heard this movie wasting quite a bit of millions of dollars

[Busyman]

I'd love to see that vid - no shit

Btw, I pronounce arse like this: r-sss

r = the letter 'r' or the word 'are'

ss = like wot a snake does.

Not 'oss'

Oh my bad. Maybe when I was hearing 'oss' they were saying 'ass' then.

Ahhh....accents accents.

[Snee]

Ah, to live in busyland where everything that doesn't fit in with your opinions doesn't exist.


I don't know how you could happen to miss out on that movie being ultra-patriotic, or how you can avoid seeing how the scenes involving the rest of the world at the end of the movie was a plot device to make america look good. But I do know that the only one who has a problem is you.

FFS, this entire argument came into existance 'cos some kid said he thought the movie stealth was patriotic/glorifying america. You didn't have to take it personally or as a comment about your country per se, nor did you need to do the same about any of the posts saying that one movie or another is patriotic, yet you do. Paranoia or inferiority complex, I dunno' what is your problem, but you are damned sensitive, finding arguments everywhere.

[Busyman]

Ah, to live in busyland where everything that doesn't fit in with your opinions doesn't exist.


I don't know how you could happen to miss out on that movie being ultra-patriotic, or how you can avoid seeing how the scenes involving the rest of the world at the end of the movie was a plot device to make america look good. But I do know that the only one who has a problem is you.

FFS, this entire argument came into existance 'cos some kid said he thought the movie stealth was patriotic/glorifying america. You didn't have to take it personally or as a comment about your country per se, nor did you need to do the same about any of the posts saying that one movie or another is patriotic, yet you do. Paranoia or inferiority complex, I dunno' what is your problem, but you are damned sensitive, finding arguments everywhere.

It ain't the first time I heard similar "patriotic" stuff about American movies or the fact that "their" country wasn't in it or how everyone has an American accent.

It's weird that American don't have the same issues with foreign films.

WhyTF isn't James Bond American? Why is that Brit the one always saving the world?

Also...
of course it has patriotism..it's a movie involving the military and the President ffs.

Now go watch
Patriot Games
Clear and Present Danger
Full Metal Jacket
Air Force One

or even Starship Troopers....

[Cheese]

It's weird that American don't have the same issues with foreign films.

You don't speak for America though, only yourself. Besides, Hollywood is more likely to remake a foreign film than actually allow another culture's film at their cinemas/on DVD. That or heavily edit it.

WhyTF isn't James Bond American? Why is that Brit the one always saving the world?

The Britishishness of James Bond is very much tongue in cheek. As opposed to the cloying patriotism extolled in films like ID4.

[maebach]

yea, I can't stand James Bond. Highly doubt a Brit can do that

[Busyman]

You don't speak for America though, only yourself. Besides, Hollywood is more likely to remake a foreign film than actually allow another culture's film at their cinemas/on DVD. That or heavily edit it.

WhyTF isn't James Bond American? Why is that Brit the one always saving the world?

The Britishishness of James Bond is very much tongue in cheek. As opposed to the cloying patriotism extolled in films like ID4.

ID4 involves war and soldiers though. My reference to JB was tongue and cheek.

Why do you think Hollywood remakes some foreign films? Do actually think it's about "not allowing another culture" into our cinemas?

Do you actually think we don't like subtitled movies in our cinemas 'cause we have a reading problem?

Hollywood is out to make money plain and simple.

I remember the movie Fatal Attraction had this shit ending for European cinemas (or was it just France) where instead of having the actionesque fight where Glen Close gets shot, they have this boring scene where she commits suicide alone in her bathroom.

I personally don't like the cinema for dramas. I like comdedies, horror, action, and sci-fi. Many folks that I know want to be wowed when at the cinema. I don't the cinema and surround sound to be "culturally enriched".

Tbh, for the most part. Independence Day was entertaining when I saw it, although it was a downhill ride. Now though, if I ever watch it, it is to the destruction of all those landmarks....basically a video clip.

An entertaining movie through and through would be Aliens but that has patriotism too. Hell it does have the Marines fighting in it.

We just look at it as the Marines in the future and not "the US is the best and PWNS!!111OMG lOL!11!".