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[manker]

Then that information should be made available for us to have a look at. As it stands, it looks like it doesn't exist or Brian would have posted to that effect.

I wasnt aware that anyone was accountable to you although I guess by your logic it just doesnt exist so we can leave it at that.

We are not the only forum of this type which means if there is a link in Google that is clicked and they arrive at a signup page then most likely they go back and find another and we never had the chance to show them what we have and they are gone that quickly unless they are prone to just signing up at every forum that request them to and most likely posting at none.

Currently we have setup a number of things to get Guests to join

1. You must register to play the Arcade.
2. As a Guest you can see titles of Verifieds within the sub sections but when you click them you get a message you cannot view the content unless you register which obviosly means you cant get the hash as well. This was a "No Content" VB hack that was installed here which continues to allow Google and to crawl the titles and Guests to see them but hides the content, the best of both. This is great for this section as it seems a good number of Google inquires fall in to those sections.
3. The NZB section is viewable to Guest including threads but when a Guests clicks on attachment they also get a message to register which is also a section that has many views for the same reasons that the Verifieds section does. This is also the best of both I think.
4. If a Guest want to tell manker to fk off which is just human nature they are given a message register also.

The fact is also that in a sense Guest take care of server costs while floating around the board and possibly clicking banners and such while most regulars dont for a variety of reasons. Also if its closed Guests they may leave and never have had the intense feeling of meeting manker and being so overwhelmed to tell him to stfu which is the fact of why most Guest register anyway..,.

Hi, newbie mod.

Thanks for all that information which is entirely irrelevant. Those things will still be in place and the rest has been posted, more eloquently, by other members of the team.

What I suggested will either be good for the forum or it won't damage the forum. The forum as a whole can't lose.

Hang on, I've already written that - several times. Would you like to contend the point? Thought not.

I really don't expect it to happen, and in truth it doesn't matter because, even at best, it will only pick up a few extra participating members per month. Meh, I can live without 'em.

I joined in the thread because muchspl had a point and you saw fit to dismiss it on behalf of the entire board. I'm good like that, as you're no doubt aware.

me thinks to insert smileys along the way next time so as not to appear so dry perhaps.

No really - leave them out, in future posts too. It appears to have a beneficial effect because you've substituted smileys for punctuation and paragraphing

I actually understood what was being said

A good effort

[{I}{K}{E}]

5 teammembers already posted saying they dont like the idea of closing sections once in a while.

Its good that members are trying to help us by posting ideas on how to improve this website. but we just don't think this is an good idea.

[manker]

5 teammembers already posted saying they dont like the idea of closing sections once in a while.

Its good that members are trying to help us by posting ideas on how to improve this website. but we just don't think this is an good idea.

That's cool with me. I do get arsey sometimes but that doesn't mean I'll strop if I don't get my way or won't express appreciation when things like this are considered in a proper way by you lot.

Thanks, IKE

[tesco]

how about something like this

http://www.megatopics.com/index.php?showforum=162

looks like a great way to gain more sign ups

That's more just forcing them to signup.


That popup disgusted me, i didn't even bother to see what the site offered.

[kazaa2002]

5 teammembers already posted saying they dont like the idea of closing sections once in a while.

Its good that members are trying to help us by posting ideas on how to improve this website. but we just don't think this is an good idea.

Hi IKE,
thanks, it takes some time to allow members to give their thoughts
sometimes the ideas are brilliant and sometimes not...but you must
allow the discourse. if the members think that their opinions will always
be flamed...you will lose the heart of this forum. Changes should not
be made till some debate from all sides are heard.
You should be commended.

[RealitY]

Thanks for all that information which is entirely irrelevant. Those things will still be in place and the rest has been posted, more eloquently, by other members of the team.

What I suggested will either be good for the forum or it won't damage the forum. The forum as a whole can't lose.

Maye you dont follow as I simply think this is a bad thing and could and would most likely create less signups and just unnecessary considering all the things we already have effectively in place to encourage signups which is why I posted them. It seems maybe you dont follow what were trying to do by creating a nice balance for the board between the two so that the need to close any additional areas of the board for any period of time become entirely unnecessary. I thought you or others might not be aware of the things that are in place which is why it is relevant that I post them and quite obnoxious of you to state it isnt.

I guess my first point which was matter of fact offended you somehow giving you the need to start some sort of petty insulting which you continue which seems unnecessary as you seem to be able to make your point quite well without it.

Hang on, I've already written that - several times. Would you like to contend the point? Thought not.

I have but you only choose to read what you want perhaps because this isnt going your way.

even at best, it will only pick up a few extra participating members per month. Meh, I can live without 'em.

I dont think it will pick up any members and actually think it will lose and with all the changes recently that have been put in place member signups are actually going rather well. The fact is of course if you were right in the assumption that it would pick up a few members then youde be correct in the fact that you wouldnt miss them as there are already enough members here that tell you to STFU all the time.

/me dosent insert any smiley as requested.

I joined in the thread because muchspl had a point and you saw fit to dismiss it on behalf of the entire board. I'm good like that, as you're no doubt aware.

Yes Im sure you are although Im a bit surprised at your need to spit out petty insults. I doubt you know what I do for the board nor do I care nor does it seem you do. If truth be told at one point I wouldve agreed with this point also which is why I have been involved with the Team in creating all the things that are now in place to encouarge signups as I think thats a better option rather than just closing things and force feeding signups which I dont think works anyway. You should also keep in mind that not only all mods in this post have spoke against it but the site owner has also...

[Rat Faced]

I didnt say i disareed.. as such.

I said i couldnt see the point, and that other things have been tried before and looked at.. (although granted, turning guest rights off one day a week hasn't)..


I do think though that the potential gain (and i'm not convinced there is any), just isn't worth the extra admin time either.


Im all for everyone continuing the debate though... its obvious that some people have strong opinions.

And others, like myself, havent.

[peat moss]

I think we would have problem if some members like Manker, were "not" so passionate about this forum. At least we have the tools here to voice our opinions . But just my thoughts.

[RealitY]

If we didnt allow members to voice their opinions only mods could post here or perhaps this would have just been closed long ago on other boards. The fact that some may not agree is hardly a reason to start name calling though. As for being passionite some of us including myself know that feeling all to well with the hours we put in here simply because we feel just that way...

[manker]

Maye you dont follow as I simply think this is a bad thing and could and would most likely create less signups and just unnecessary considering all the things we already have effectively in place to encourage signups which is why I posted them. It seems maybe you dont follow what were trying to do by creating a nice balance for the board between the two so that the need to close any additional areas of the board for any period of time become entirely unnecessary. I thought you or others might not be aware of the things that are in place which is why it is relevant that I post them and quite obnoxious of you to state it isnt.

I guess my first point which was matter of fact offended you somehow giving you the need to start some sort of petty insulting which you continue which seems unnecessary as you seem to be able to make your point quite well without it.

Indeed. I sometimes take umbrage when decisions are made on behalf of many people by someone who has no right to do so. This time particularly irked me because it was a flat refusal with no reasoning made by a bloke (I think you are) who'd recently attained mod status to help with the Newsgroup section of the board.

I felt you needed to explain your position. Which was actually done on your behalf, quite reasonably, by different members of the team.

Hang on, I've already written that - several times. Would you like to contend the point? Thought not.

I have but you only choose to read what you want perhaps because this isnt going your way.

No, if you put my comment back into context, you haven't touched upon it. As to it not going my way - has your position been explained or not.

even at best, it will only pick up a few extra participating members per month. Meh, I can live without 'em.

I dont think it will pick up any members and actually think it will lose and with all the changes recently that have been put in place member signups are actually going rather well. The fact is of course if you were right in the assumption that it would pick up a few members then youde be correct in the fact that you wouldnt miss them as there are already enough members here that tell you to STFU all the time.

/me dosent insert any smiley as requested.

Yup, I've said that opinion, expressed by RF I think, has merit and should be considered. Well done for posting it again. It makes it look like you're actually contributing to the thread and not just bashing the keyboard in a random manner.

I joined in the thread because muchspl had a point and you saw fit to dismiss it on behalf of the entire board. I'm good like that, as you're no doubt aware.

Yes Im sure you are although Im a bit surprised at your need to spit out petty insults. I doubt you know what I do for the board nor do I care nor does it seem you do. If truth be told at one point I wouldve agreed with this point also which is why I have been involved with the Team in creating all the things that are now in place to encouarge signups as I think thats a better option rather than just closing things and force feeding signups which I dont think works anyway. You should also keep in mind that not only all mods in this post have spoke against it but the site owner has also...

So, you've called me obnoxious, said that people tell me to shut the fuck up on a regular basis and implied that my reading comprehension diminishes when threads aren't going my way. Yet I'm the petty one.

I can't disagree with the obnoxious comment. I can, however, tell you that this thread has gone fairly well for me, sure my proposal didn't get taken up. In fairness it wasn't my proposal - it was muchspl's but I did take up the mantle in order that instead of getting a flat refusal from some minor team member, it was discussed properly in team chat.

This has happened and I've posted my appreciation twice previously in this thread to the team as a whole.

As I say, I can live without the new members that it might have brought. I'm happy that it was discussed and rejected by the team. What I refuse to accept, now and in the future, is one team member getting a bit big for his boots and making statements on behalf of everyone.

Consider your feet shrunk.