I would like to argue something pretty important to me.

[tralalala]

I've been misunderstood... no probs there.

What I meant was, that I think all (or, a very very very high percentage) suicides and murders on a nationalist basis are Muslim related.

@RF: Are you telling me the Israeli media are liers? I thought it was rated low because you are not permitted to talk about security stuff freely, and for a good reason. Could you imagine if someone found out lets say how many soldiers there are in the IDF (Which by the way is confidential material, and no one apart from I think the Cheif of Staff and some MP's know about), and spoke it out so people (or, better - enemies such as Hizballah related people) heard it and passed it on... A war would break out immediately (if for instance there are a low ammount of soldiers for instance).

I think that is why it is said that Israels media is not rated so high in Free Press. Not because it's rubbish what they say, but simply as a precaution for Israels security.

[Snee]

At reporters without borders the index for 2004 said that Israel was 36th/115th wrt israeli/occupied territories

You've got 2003, rat'.

[Rat Faced]

Its only with regard to the occupied Territories that the Press is not allowed to report what they wish to.

It is a ranking of Press Freedom, not what they report.


This does not mean they are, or are not, liars.

Just that all the reports are biased by the Government, therefore look elsewhere for the facts... such as Finland, Netherlands, Iceland or Norway.. all ranked No 1

[tralalala]

Hey RF, mistakes happen, no probs, accept your apology

Anyway, i think that my previouse post still apllies

[GepperRankins]

do you hear about when isreali soldiers kill palestinian kids in the streets, be it accidental or not? did you hear about the british reporter who was shot in the head while waving a white flag?

[tralalala]

It's problematic having people post same time you do isn't it..?

Anyway, I don't think you will find anymore info. about the Territories anywhere else in the world.
The press can't post what they want for security reasons, and I think you can all understand and accept that.
That is why they are ranked so low in the Freedom thingy table..

[Rat Faced]

At reporters without borders the index for 2004 said that Israel was 36th/115th wrt israeli/occupied territories

You've got 2003, rat'.

Thanks, i'll try and update my bookmark


Damn, we dropped a place

NEW Source


108 United States of America (in Iraq) 36,00

[tralalala]

Yes, we heard al saw al of that on the news.

Just yesterday we saw how an Israeli soldier headbutted a Palestinian demonstrator against the wall being built. He was suspended.
We see all we can see. You cannot see more than you need to here.

[RioDeLeo]

You have admirably illustrated the point about googling for your own point of view. You seek out pages which back up your argument and contradict the opposing view. Again, no checks for accuracy, you simply want to show that the other side is biased because it offends your own point of view. That in itself can hardly be described as a balanced approach.

An admirable job of misrepresentation there Lynx, you are to be commended.

And, you mentioned ignoring uncomfortable facts on tralala's part, well, the way I see it, you have been doing the same thing, picking and choosing the arguments you think you can respond to.

Where are your examples? Or is this just another of your swings in the dark?

[Busyman]

l'm African.

It explains alot.