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    Busyman's Avatar Use Logic Or STFU!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat Faced
    In addition no one has actually asked what, if any, benefit will be gained by a partial withdrawal. Plus what affect any measurements will have mearly because they were "brokered" by the USA.

    Both things have a negative value in the eyes of the Palestinians.
    As I say, they will never be satisfied.
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    @ Lio

    "The only devils in the world are those running in our own hearts. That is where the battle should be fought. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Quote Originally Posted by Rat Faced
    In addition no one has actually asked what, if any, benefit will be gained by a partial withdrawal. Plus what affect any measurements will have mearly because they were "brokered" by the USA.

    Both things have a negative value in the eyes of the Palestinians.
    As I say, they will never be satisfied.
    Its because only 5% trust the USA.

    On the other hand, 51% trust the Arab League... they've been stabbed in the back by both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tralalala
    I've been misunderstood... no probs there.

    What I meant was, that I think all (or, a very very very high percentage) suicides and murders on a nationalist basis are Muslim related.
    What does " ... on a nationalist basis are Muslim related" mean. Are you saying that Muslim is a nation.

    Simply because people claim to be Muslim and claim to be acting on behalf of other Muslims does not make it so.

    The British ones were banned from the mosque. The Muslim leaders have denounced the acts. The Muslim people are saying that they don't approve of the Murders and asking everyone else to realise that it is nothing to do with them. In fact that it is against what true Muslims believe

    Why do you persist in saying that these acts are Muslim related, when they killed Muslims and when the Muslim people want nothing to do with them.

    It's that sort of attitude which causes problems and supports the likes of the BNP in their bigotry. If you feel that way in your country that's a matter for you. However the right thinking people in my country feel entirely differently.

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    Although Islam was born in Mecca, diversity was its hallmark from the very beginning. The Prophet Muhammad’s earliest followers included Bilal the African slave, Ibn Sailam the Rabbi, Suhaib the Byzantine Roman and Salman the Persian. Today, there are clear differences within the Islamic world between the various axes. There is a struggle for leadership between the oil-rich Arab world and the Persian axis led by Iran; between the Europe-ward tendencies of Turkey and Sharia-dominated Nigeria; the Baul mystics of Bangladesh and the militant Jamaatis of Pakistan. In America and Europe, there are new Islamic variations that are unthinkable in Third World Islam — such as militant Muslim feminists and out-and-proud Gay Muslims (“Queer Jihad”). In short, there is both conflict and cooperation, traditionalism and experimentation, harmony and strife.
    Sure sounds like Christianity etc to me..

    Lots of factions, and none speak for the rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by RioDeLeo
    You answer the posts you think you have an answer for, whilst ignoring those that stuff you. You repeat the same old shit over and over.
    When will the land be returned to the natives of North America, of Africa, of Australia and New Zealand. In fact everywhere else where it was stolen.
    Perhaps this time.

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    When I said nationalist related I meant that they weren't killing somONE because he/she hated him/her specifically, i meant these killings and suicides were taken out on a basis that the murderers hated the general nation/region (western) they came from, as in they didn't want to kill Arabs or Muslims, they wanted to kill Jews or Westeners.

    It's hard to explain for me, I hope you understand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat Faced
    Although Islam was born in Mecca, diversity was its hallmark from the very beginning. The Prophet Muhammad’s earliest followers included Bilal the African slave, Ibn Sailam the Rabbi, Suhaib the Byzantine Roman and Salman the Persian. Today, there are clear differences within the Islamic world between the various axes. There is a struggle for leadership between the oil-rich Arab world and the Persian axis led by Iran; between the Europe-ward tendencies of Turkey and Sharia-dominated Nigeria; the Baul mystics of Bangladesh and the militant Jamaatis of Pakistan. In America and Europe, there are new Islamic variations that are unthinkable in Third World Islam — such as militant Muslim feminists and out-and-proud Gay Muslims (“Queer Jihad”). In short, there is both conflict and cooperation, traditionalism and experimentation, harmony and strife.
    Sure sounds like Christianity etc to me..

    Lots of factions, and none speak for the rest

    They don't speak for each other, however others are happy to lump them all together.

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    When I said nationalist related I meant that they weren't killing somONE because he/she hated him/her specifically, i meant these killings and suicides were taken out on a basis that the murderers hated the general nation/region (western) they came from, as in they didn't want to kill Arabs or Muslims, they wanted to kill Jews or Westeners.

    It's hard to explain for me, I hope you understand....

    they didn't want to kill westerners or christians. they wanted our government to stop supporting america/isreal and GTFO of their business
    Last edited by GepperRankins; 07-17-2005 at 04:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by Rat Faced

    Sure sounds like Christianity etc to me..

    Lots of factions, and none speak for the rest

    They don't speak for each other, however others are happy to lump them all together.
    I was agreeing with you

    Hell, some factions wont even speak to each other.. again, just like Christianity and Juadism

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