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    What is that supposed to mean.
    Well you think killing is wrong full stop...I am correct in this?
    No

    Re your other "point"

    Why would I only have one reason to hold an opinion. The fact that I find capital punishment morally wrong would not preclude me from having other reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
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    He has a doppelganger.
    No matter how unlikely, it is possible.

    Therefore "absolutely no doubt" does not hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Well you think killing is wrong full stop...I am correct in this?
    No

    Re your other "point"

    Why would I only have one reason to hold an opinion. The fact that I find capital punishment morally wrong would not preclude me from having other reasons.
    ok you think capital punishment is wrong full stop. so if it's morally wrong to execute the guilty why would you need to say it's wrong to execute the guilty because we might make a mistake an execute the innocent?


    when is killing morally right then?
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    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
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    No

    Re your other "point"

    Why would I only have one reason to hold an opinion. The fact that I find capital punishment morally wrong would not preclude me from having other reasons.
    ok you think capital punishment is wrong full stop. so if it's morally wrong to execute the guilty why would you need to say it's wrong to execute the guilty because we might make a mistake an execute the innocent?


    when is killing morally right then?


    The irony of vidcc spamming his own thread, because of being unable to post a cogent defence for an untenable position.

    Fan-tastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc

    No matter how unlikely, it is possible.

    Therefore "absolutely no doubt" does not hold.
    it's possible that he could switch places in front of the camera after being arrested at the scene or between being taken to lock up and trial.

    take your rod and line elsewhere.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Recently, there have been a few people convicted with "No Doubt" evidence from experts and forensics that have been released due to the original evidence now being "Unsafe"...


    Throughout the world, i have lost count of how many people have been released after new evidence came to light, however there was no doubt when they were convicted...


    To take the life of another Human Being, in cold blood... is wrong. Even if found "Guilty" by a jury of his peers.

    Eyewitness evidence is some of the most unreliable..ask any copper. Yet most are convicted on this.

    Forensic Science continues to evolve... what was "Proven" with it 10 years ago, is now "Disproven" now.. With the same evidence.




    Anyone that says "Proven without Doubt" is daft, unless they were there. And even if it is... the reason why must come into play. Maybe the guy wasnt "innocent", but escaped justice and the father caught up with him...

    There are too many variables, even without the fact that we're civilised and should know better... the Death Penalty is just wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul

    No matter how unlikely, it is possible.

    Therefore "absolutely no doubt" does not hold.
    it's possible that he could switch places in front of the camera after being arrested at the scene or between being taken to lock up and trial.

    take your rod and line elsewhere.
    Pas de rod, je ne fish pour le tiddler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    ok you think capital punishment is wrong full stop. so if it's morally wrong to execute the guilty why would you need to say it's wrong to execute the guilty because we might make a mistake an execute the innocent?


    when is killing morally right then?


    The irony of vidcc spamming his own thread, because of being unable to post a cogent defence for an untenable position.

    Fan-tastic.
    I see you are giving your fingers a rest and typing with your ass again..... nevertheless i would like to know when you consider killing morally right
    Last edited by vidcc; 07-30-2005 at 09:54 PM.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Its never morally right, sometimes its necessary.

    If someone is convicted, then its no longer necessary.


    Edit:

    Morals are not universal.

    Therefore, please read as "For Me" its never Morally Right.
    Last edited by Rat Faced; 07-30-2005 at 10:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
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    The irony of vidcc spamming his own thread, because of being unable to post a cogent defence for an untenable position.

    Fan-tastic.
    I see you are giving your fingers a rest and typing with your ass again..... nevertheless i would like to know when you consider killing morally right
    Not when the victim is of no threat to anyone else. Which is what this (your) thread is about.

    I see that you have gone from poor debate to cheap insult, it saddens me that you spammed your own thread.

    Perhaps you won't be so precious the next time someone else does it.

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