death sentence in the uk?

[GepperRankins]

maybe the definition of home invasion is so badly defined that guests are invaders, so the increase of house parties over the last year easily made up that drop in burglaries

[Barbarossa]

I just did, thanks for that, and I stand by my statement. Which source did you get your stats from then?

So home invasion equals burglary?

Oic.

I would have said yes, home invasion is a type of burglary, and at least one definition backs me up, however this could be a "tomayto, tomahto" situation we have here, because I see from wikipedia that "Home Invasion" is a legally defined offence in your country, and so you can be charged with it for an intent other than burglary.

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...ome%20invasion

http://www.answers.com/topic/home-invasion

If you had directed me to wikipedia, or in fact had provided a source in the first place, we wouldn't have had this pointless discussion...

[MCHeshPants420]

Gate-crashing a house party.
Illegal house-sitting.
Reverse burglary.

[MCHeshPants420]

maybe the definition of home invasion is so badly defined that guests are invaders, so the increase of house parties over the last year easily made up that drop in burglaries

You always end up with people at your party that you don't know and didn't invite so perhaps they are included in the figures.

[GepperRankins]

home invasion isn't badly defined.

now where's stats to suggest it's increased?

[Busyman]

So home invasion equals burglary?

Oic.

I would have said yes, home invasion is a type of burglary, and at least one definition backs me up, however this could be a "tomayto, tomahto" situation we have here, because I see from wikipedia that "Home Invasion" is a legally defined offence in your country, and so you can be charged with it for an intent other than burglary.

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...ome%20invasion

http://www.answers.com/topic/home-invasion

If you had directed me to wikipedia, or in fact had provided a source in the first place, we wouldn't have had this pointless discussion...

Sorry, I didn't look at wiki.

Home invasions don't always involve burglary annnnnd all burglaries aren't home invasions.

I leave you to google...

[Barbarossa]

home invasion isn't badly defined.

now where's stats to suggest it's increased?

Maybe they're hidden within the violent crime increased. Maybe it's just really boisterous party gatecrashers?

[GepperRankins]

I would have said yes, home invasion is a type of burglary, and at least one definition backs me up, however this could be a "tomayto, tomahto" situation we have here, because I see from wikipedia that "Home Invasion" is a legally defined offence in your country, and so you can be charged with it for an intent other than burglary.

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...ome%20invasion

http://www.answers.com/topic/home-invasion

If you had directed me to wikipedia, or in fact had provided a source in the first place, we wouldn't have had this pointless discussion...

Sorry, I didn't look at wiki.

Home invasions don't always involve burglary annnnnd all burglaries aren't home invasions.

I leave you to google...

home invasion
n.

Burglary of a dwelling while the residents are at home.

there would still have to be a massive increase to counter the 20% fall in overall burglaries. or or an even bigger drop in burglaries when no-one is in. or a mix of both. impossible i reckon

[bigboab]

The only reason for a decrease in the crime rate is the fact that people cannot be bothered reporting it anymore. Unless it is a 'high profile' case the police cant be arsed pursuing it.

If someone burgles your house and you call the police. The standard reply from 'plod' is. 'You will get the insurance money for it'. Is somebody is assaulted they say 'Unless we see them doing it, we cant do anything about it'.

If the burglary involved a priceless painting or the assault was likely to end up in a murder case. There would be more 'brass plod' around your house than in the local scrap yard.

[manker]

The only reason for a decrease in the crime rate is the fact that people cannot be bothered reporting it anymore. Unless it is a 'high profile' case the police cant be arsed pursuing it.

If someone burgles your house and you call the police. The standard reply from 'plod' is. 'You will get the insurance money for it'. Is somebody is assaulted they say 'Unless we see them doing it, we cant do anything about it'.

If the burglary involved a priceless painting or the assault was likely to end up in a murder case. There would be more 'brass plod' around your house than in the local scrap yard.

So the fact you need a crime number for any insurance claim didn't come into your reasoning at all.