Is he an illegal immigrant then?
I'm not saying no immigration at all, just that it should be controlled and we should have an effective way of recording, logging, following up and deporting when refused to stay
Is he an illegal immigrant then?
I'm not saying no immigration at all, just that it should be controlled and we should have an effective way of recording, logging, following up and deporting when refused to stay
He's not illegal and I thought you were saying that immigration is a bad thing. I do agree with what you write in so much as the administration leaves much to be desired.
Immigration gets blamed for a lot and the benefits are rarely mentioned.
But I said this :Originally Posted by manker
and then this:Originally Posted by me
Originally Posted by me
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In an interview with channel 4 tonight, the that Blaire guy at the met said that they had 250 incidents where they thought they were following a suicide bomber since 7/7
7 of these times, they nearly shot the suspect.
Bad time to wear a coat or carry a rucsack if your skin isnt white in London..![]()
BTW: If they hit our economy/infrastructure, they are murderers... we hit theirs, its colateral damage... o-kay...
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An It Harm None, Do What You Will
I feel the connotations are very different. I don't think I am being picky re the choice of words, I think it's important to understand what someone means and if you are unsure to ask. As such could you clarify what you meant by Israeli Tactics as I am now even more confused. If you can't be bothered cool.Originally Posted by lynx
Re your second, I can't think of anyone who condems such policies in Israel but supports them in England. You obviously don't believe me, like I said pas de problem.
You say "react to that comment" as if I were having a go at you, not the case I am genuinely curious about this duplicitousness you perceive, simply because I don't see it.
We don't mean to, they set out toOriginally Posted by RF
You see "colateral damage" as being analogous to suicide bombings on totally civilian targets.Originally Posted by Rat Faced
I can't agree, most crimes are to an extent dependent on the intention of the person carrying out the act. I think this is the same type of thing.
I would say his skin was white mate.Originally Posted by Rat Faced
I don't really see what your point is there.
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During the 10 years prior to the invasion of Iraq, the US and UK were known to target water purification plants..
Many innocents were killed, not a military target, against the geneva convention.
Economic Targets are, and have always been legitimate targets, from the times the Tudors sent privateers to attack spanish merchant ships and earlier.
The "Target" was to bring the London Transport system to a halt. They achieved this.
If they just wished to kill civilians, then there are many other places that they could have bombed with timers/remotes, where they would not have been at risk.
As the target was legitimate, then the deaths are colateral damage.
Either that, or the US troops that went into Falujah are murderers as well... legitimate target (suspected militia), lots of innocents killed.
You cant have it both ways.
You cant declare a war and then say "But we arent playing unless you stand still and let us kill you, without you doing the same thing back"
Well, you can... but you'd be ignored..
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An It Harm None, Do What You Will
But then there wouldn't be the glory of martyrdom would thereOriginally Posted by RF
And your comment about the tube being a legitimate target is complete bollocks![]()
Last edited by DanB; 07-26-2005 at 07:30 PM.
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